Tanks won't survive long in teamfights, tanks with long cds abuse stoneplate just to survive a bit longer. If you don't have stoneplate you are going to die fast. Previous tank items don't give u good stats, sure they are cheap but then we have no counterplay against a adc that hit 6 items late game unless tehy die
Jbels2 votesCan we just have the health back on items? You can't have it both ways, Riot. Damage or survivability, not both.
Bronze Demon2 votesdamage has too many scalings attached to it whereas defense doesnt.
physical: attack speed, AD, crit chance, crit damage, armor pen (flat,reduction, %), scales on abilities, cdr, % dmg items which also scale with pen + attack speed. also life steal converts damage into sustain + tankiness.
magic: cdr, ability power, magic pen (flat, %), scales on abilties, % dmg items which also scale with pen + cdr.
damager dealers get 8-10 multiplying factors to increase their damage potential + can convert that into sustain/tankiness.
meanwhile all tanks have is MR, Armor, AA reductions and hp. very few tanks have abilities that scale with defense. hp regen as a base stat is useless unless you get warmogs. but if you get warmogs, u sacrifice resistances making you vulnerable to 1/2 of the enemy damage. other damage reduction scaling factors are too minimal (masteries blocking 2 dmg from champs?)
tanks get 3-4 multiplying factors to increase tanking potential. only 3 can be combined to multiply (resist + hp + special reduction).
solution: make tanks have abilities that scale with resistances + hp on top of ad/ap. add more multiplying factors for tanks. buff tabis/randuins special passive.
Tobias Brackner2 votesTanks will survive plenty long. They will just have to care about positioning more than they used to in the past.
NGNL Asian1 votes[{quoted}](name=Tobias Brackner,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HyK7w7zu,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-06-15T07:43:10.732+0000)
Tanks will survive plenty long. They will just have to care about positioning more than they used to in the past.
You're right but they are not as strong as they used to be. With every adc centered around bork, in the future, tanks will take a lot less damage due to the 4% less damage for ranged but it's still pretty annoying
ForgiveColour2 votesi cant tank 1v5 for 10seconds anymore wtf tank so weak buff pls
Lmao
Tobias Brackner1 votesYeah, not as strong as they used to be but still plenty strong. Maybe consider picking up a damage item or something to complete your build.
Sir Yamazuki1 votesSeems their issue comes with non-tanks being too durable while still dealing too much damage. There are some tanky champions that kill very slowly, and others that have pretty good burst. Having those following the second type makes it annoying to deal with when they get too tanky. They get to kill your carries and tank for their team. This is why stone plate reduces your damage when it is used.
NGNL Asian1 votes[{quoted}](name=Sir Yamazuki,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HyK7w7zu,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-06-14T23:49:06.885+0000)
Seems their issue comes with non-tanks being too durable while still dealing too much damage. There are some tanky champions that kill very slowly, and others that have pretty good burst. Having those following the second type makes it annoying to deal with when they get too tanky. They get to kill your carries and tank for their team. This is why stone plate reduces your damage when it is used.
Well, they're buffing back trundle now, guess whose going take all your tank's strats and make them a literal squishy and then will 1v5 your entire team. loololol
Ben Sharpio1 votesIf you're a "tank" that doesn't have percent damage reduction you play should play for mid/early game. And if youre doing that then you should build like a bruiser
NGNL Asian1 votes[{quoted}](name=Corsair Sion,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HyK7w7zu,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-06-14T23:49:16.723+0000)
If you're a "tank" that doesn't have percent damage reduction you play should play for mid/early game. And if youre doing that then you should build like a bruiser
OH na, I see things like malphite get instantly deleted nowadays lol.
hhaavviikk1 votesjust play poppy, tank for days