Playing against Locket/Face of Mountain combined is trying to push me away from playing this game.

VoraciousX·Dec 22, 2016·3 votes·646 views

This level of cockblock is NOT okay. You basically just pick some champions that do extremely well in teamfights as long as they can survive(which they can now) and locket/face of mountain/redemption them and instantly won game. It's SO many levels of annoying and I don't care how much you want supports to feel viable, they need to be gutted. Assassins get gutted all the time for being anti-fun, this is the same thing! Squishies have no down sides now because they basically just wait for the support items to be up then go into a teamfight all YOLO and blow through you because you can't blow them up. You "hotfixed" Shaco, hotfix this shit please. -.- Make item active shields NOT stack.

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vOmvbrawfUDec 22, 20162 votes

so back off until the shield is over and fight again?

VoraciousXDec 22, 20161 votes

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so back off until the shield is over and fight again?

When it's 5v5 and the rest of your team is fighting, and you're an assassin going to kill a priority target, and they locket/face of mountain/redemption them, it's going to be a lost teamfight no matter what, if you back off it'll just be a 4v5. Face is 4 seconds, Locket is 2.5, so I'm supposed to back off for 4 seconds in the middle of a teamfight then go back in? My teammates will be dead by that time.

Nova SkyeDec 23, 20161 votes

If you commit anyway after seeing the shield it's 5 dead instead of 4.
If your team mates can't back out after seeing a shield pop (or start a fight without baiting it out first), they deserve to die.
If your team doesn't know HOW to bait that shield, you shouldn't even be thinking about diving.

VoraciousXDec 23, 20161 votes

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If you commit anyway after seeing the shield it's 5 dead instead of 4.

If your team mates can't back out after seeing a shield pop (or start a fight without baiting it out first), they deserve to die.

If your team doesn't know HOW to bait that shield, you shouldn't even be thinking about diving.

You usually have to have some form of extreme disengage to get out of a teamfight, and if you're coming from behind, even if you back out once the shield is up they deal with the rest of your team they're going to chase you down and kill you anyways. Janna ult or Malphite ult are one of the few abilities I can see for getting out of a teamfight. Not all teamfights are planned on your side though.

Nova SkyeDec 28, 20161 votes

At that point it means your team didn't play to the game. Meaning your support didn't match/counter items, your team comp didn't match/counter theirs. If it's a sheer level difference, your team didn't perform to the early game BEFORE the items were purchased.

Any shield can be baited out - especially if you see them planning a fight against you and you know it's coming. Usually rather obvious by bait maneuvers, hovering, poking.

As a support main, I can tell you that those two shields together are of course strong - but they are also incredibly hard to hold on to. If the support holds on to them, easy picks. If they blow them, large window of downtime to work with.

vOmvbrawfUDec 26, 20161 votes

Why are you trying to 5v5 as an assassin? You're going to get CC'd and deleted anyway.

VoraciousXDec 26, 20161 votes

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Why are you trying to 5v5 as an assassin? You're going to get CC'd and deleted anyway.

What should I be doing? splitpushing while they're in our base? In 5v5s assassins sneak behind the enemy and delete a priority target while the fight is going on, then try to slip away(usually die during the process but not all the time, though I was playing tank Kat so I could have, but my entire team just got rolled over because their bot lane won). If a support can give said priority target a 1500 health bar shield, that negates any damage done to them and basically makes it a 5v6 since it doubles one squishy's health bar.

Not to mention you wait for them to use their CC on someone else. I was the last to die, the fact that they just steamrolled because their Lux mid laner got a second health bar so she was able to just mow everyone down.

vOmvbrawfUDec 27, 20161 votes

Lux...mow everyone down...lol.

VoraciousXDec 29, 20161 votes

It's maybe 20 seconds more than most ults, which is usually up every teamfight, That's with ruby sightstone anyways. They didn't even use the shield until I almost killed the Lux, at which point she gained a health bar sized shield. Support items are ridiculous right now. I played a Karma top game with all support items and won lane, was like 11/6/15 by the end of that game. The items I used were literally: item 3107 item 3190 item 3504 item 3222 item 3158 and I built a item 3089 because I was so ahead and just felt like getting more AP.