question when buying abyssal?

xDogMeatx··1 votes·1,283 views

item 3010 vs item 1057 ? how do i pick if i was rushing it. is it like MR gives resistance vs poke? while health/mana helps vs all ins?

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Frosted Tips3 votes

First off I probably would never recommend building Abyssal because it is pretty terrible, but if you had to it would be catalyst against poke and megatron against all ins.

xDogMeatx1 votes

when do you build it? since its situational as you say

Frosted Tips1 votes

When my team and the enemy team are both running 3 or more magic damage dealers. So an example would be;

Vladimir Elise Orianna Ezreal Nami vs. Maokai Evelynn Xerath Kaisa Thresh

xDogMeatx1 votes

sounds very unfairly situational lol. i thought if you were already a close combat magic dealer like how Warwick or Sylas works.

Frosted Tips1 votes

It just has horrible stats. Also the item increases magic damage by 10% which means that if you are not also building penetration that much of that 10% increased magic damage is negated, so you want to have multiple allys that deal magic damage and build penetration. Also the other Magic resist items are just statistically more effective.

xDogMeatx1 votes

oh ok i thought it was a offense/defense item. but your saying its more of a team setup magic damage amplifier item.

Frosted Tips1 votes

Pretty much that is a spot on description.

xDogMeatx2 votes

yup i figured as much. so its a item you pretty much buy for your team like frozen heart works where you kinda sacrifice your item slot for your team to give them 15% more tankyness vs attack speed or amps magic damage for item 3001 .

BlueBilberry1 votes

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First off I probably would never recommend building Abyssal because it is pretty terrible, but if you had to it would be catalyst against poke and megatron against all ins.

Not too far off. I have built it on Ornn and on "tank" support Neeko and Fiddlesticks - and it's really really bad for cost-efficiency in terms of what you get after spending so much on it. The only correction I would offer is that the negatron would be rushed if the comp is heavy AP.

Sirsir2 votes

Inverse, the sustain is better against poke (and the mana is usually more helpful against those champs too) and the Mr vs large amounts of burst.

When in doubt go catalyst

xDogMeatx1 votes

oh ok. sustain beats small chips. while MR beats all ins so you can fight back afterword.

heroikc1 votes

Catalyst is typically first for sustain, then MR.

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