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My reaction to Shyvana Changes on PBE thus far

Forhonor321··2 votes·831 views

[slayer-pantheon-rainbows]

Ok granted the full changes haven't been posted yet and so there may be some more changes coming to be listed, but for what I'm seeing so far I'm liking it. For those who are too lazy to go to the site and look up the changes allow me to quickly relist what has been posted so far:

  • Base health and health regen up a tad bit
  • Burnout now grows in size while in dragon form
  • Passive doesn't double in dragon form
  • Flame Breath now stops on first enemy champion hit, Dragon form now has it as a fireball that on impact or location scorches the earth, dealing damage to enemies in it
  • Ult now grant bonus health, damage lowered a bit, and can no longer be interrupted mid flight anymore

And now my thoughts: YESSSSS! SHE'S FINALLY UNSTOPPABLE WHEN SHE'S ULTING! OUR PRAYERS AS SHYVANA MAINS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED! Ok aside from that I can go into more detail.

The bonus health and regen is a nice touch to her i guess but honestly it doesn't really seem like a huge change to me. I'm not exactly sure how directly or how big of a help this actually is so I'll just have to see for myself. Burnout growing in size is also a nice touch and I personally I think this will have a bigger impact on her in game. Scorching the ground though has been moved to E though, which now brings me to that. It's kinda odd that now you can only mark one enemy champion, which to me kinda sucks but I mean I get it it's for balancing. The Dragon form though is definetely going to help give the feel like she really is a dragon. Passive not being doubled in dragon form I don't feel is that big of a loss since we're gaining unstoppable and bonus health, but now that brings me to some concerns I have.

First, when I got the end of the notes I noticed the thing about possibly a new passive for her. That being whenever she or her team secures a dragon she personally gains bonus effects for herself (at first I though it was for her whole team. That'd be so OP). Now at first it looks good, I mean she gains bonuses for herself and it only applies to certain dragons but looking over it some of the bonuses feel a bit insane: % damage dealt is now true damage, Free slow resistance, free CR, and now towers and monsters deal less damage to you. Most of these I'm kinda fine with but the true damage is a bit much for me to fully take in. Other issues I have are more just general questions, like is her old passive now going to be implemented in her stats, is E in dragon form still going to apply the debuff for % damage, is the hitbox for ult going to finally get fixed, and will W possibly get its damage tick updated like Mundo's and Singed's?

Overall though I'm fairly looking forward to the new changes when the next patch rolls around but what do you guys think? (and remember this is just from what I've looked up currently. More info on her changes are still coming.)

11 Comments

PapaGreg211 votes

The bonus change to base stats is probably more to clean up numbers than intended to really be a buff. I personally love the changes, especially the uninterruptible ultimate which probably should have been part of her initial design but kudos to riot for doing it. Don't forget that guinsoos and BOTRK are being possibly buffed as well which is going to help her kit. The dragon part of her kit with that added passive will finally give her an identity in this new season and a reason to pick her over gank heavy junglers. Very excited to play her now in season 7.

Forhonor3211 votes

Oh yeah BOTRK is getting buffed. Don't really know about Guinsoos though. Didn't exactly work out as Riot has intended but who knows maybe this will fix that issue (I still don't think it'll be a good item on Shyv though). The new passive that they're adding, like you said will make her a reason to be picked but at the same time it'll kinda make her a bit more feast or famine. I mean she's kinda like that now, either she farms gold or doesn't, but in terms of her new passive it'll than be get dragon and become even stronger or lose it and don't get that huge buff.

Zelorxon1 votes

@riot @wav3break

wav3break IF YOU'RE READING THIS GIVE ME A SHOUT, WE CAN DISCUSS THE SHYVANA CHANGES TOGETHER, I HAVE DISCORD TOO, IF YOU HEAR ME KNOCK ONCE!

Quick recap of my impressions here. http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/3jvyZ8V5-im-a-little-let-down-by-the-shyvana-changes?comment=0002

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Really just looking forward to Mira's reaction to these changes.

I'm just a casual Shyv player myself, and I'm liking how these are looking.

Forhonor3211 votes

You know now I want to know Mira's reaction to all of this too.

Anski1 votes

You know you're bad when you need a silver 2 "shyv main" to tell you what's good and what's not.

Raiku Kawisa1 votes

YES REJOICE FOR THE ULT IS UNSTOPPABLE! I'm going to kill so many thresh's for the pain they have caused me for so long.

As far as the E, yes it does still apply the mark. Not just the the first person hit, but the people hit by the explosion and the burning ground as well.

Forhonor3211 votes

Oh ok so it does still apply the mark. That's good to know. Btw what r your thoughts on the new passive they may be adding to her?

Raiku Kawisa1 votes

{quoted}

Oh ok so it does still apply the mark. That's good to know. Btw what r your thoughts on the new passive they may be adding to her?

I am wary of it. I will have to see its impact on her gameplay both with her getting 5 dragons and her getting none. The rest of her kit is solid enough that she doesn't truly need to get dragons to be effective it seems, but I'll hold judgement until after the patch comes out. Especially since i thought the new jungle changes were going to destroy Shyvana, but they are fine.

Forhonor3211 votes

I have to agree with you on that. Her kit is fairly solid, even without any CC (besides ult but we know how that is), and the buffs to her with dragons is fairly nice but when you look outside of SR on say ARAM of TT it really doesn't do anything. I feel like they could've done something a bit more to her but we'll just have to wait and see.

Raiku Kawisa1 votes

{quoted}

I have to agree with you on that. Her kit is fairly solid, even without any CC (besides ult but we know how that is), and the buffs to her with dragons is fairly nice but when you look outside of SR on say ARAM of TT it really doesn't do anything. I feel like they could've done something a bit more to her but we'll just have to wait and see.

They stated they are going to do something for the other maps if this passive gets pushed to live

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