why does Lucian has no way to help the team if behind?

xDogMeatx··1 votes·973 views

while (i think) pretty much every other adc has some way to contribute to their team (vayne E can save teammates or make a enemy in a bad spot or xayah E can root after 3 feathers) hell even kalista has a slow after her Q poke. kaisa or jhin has percent damage based on missing hp which means she/he is still a threat no matter how under fed.

why is he left out of utility or team effort CC. at least a slow on his ult would change things.

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Sona Ping2 votes

Because ADC are not known for their crowd control.

xDogMeatx1 votes

as i said name Jhin Ashe MissFortune Tristana Vayne Varus i can keep going on but you get the deal pretty much all adcs have cc except lucian.

yes im aware miss fortune has a E slow but its still a slow nevertheless.

Sona Ping1 votes

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as i said name Jhin Ashe MissFortune Tristana Vayne Varus i can keep going on but you get the deal pretty much all adcs have cc except lucian.

As I said that like some other champions, ADCs are not known for their CC. There is a relationship between having reliable CC, peel, engage, etc. and damage potential. It's not like Katarina has a lot of CC either. There's reasons why the aggressive, mobile, ranged Lucian does not have his abilities crowd control as well.

xDogMeatx1 votes

oh i get it hes the ranged version of kat minus the resets.

p3tm4ster1 votes

Probably because his CC will come from his better half Senna, who will make up for it by being mostly CC. It will work much the same way that xayah and rakan work.

iiGazeii1 votes

It'd kind of Lucian's thing that he's an early game bully in the bot lane. He has a facemelting level 2-3 all-in and can snowball from there, but if he screws up, he falls off.

xDogMeatx1 votes

how do you play 100 to 0ing them as lucian i always run out of mana before that opportunity.

iiGazeii1 votes

You don't spend it before the all-in. None of your abilities should be used on cooldown. Push and farm with autos, not abilities, look for poke with Q, but your W and E should really be saved for the all-in, or to escape.

Posui Gart1 votes

His early game is one of the best ones for an ADC. If he is behind, that means he fucked up really hard somewhere. Even if his lane is permaganked, with his E and W ms boost it is easier to survive than it is for Jhin Also, if Lucian is like utterly behind with 0 chance to comeback, he can get BC to shred armor with his ult, and Rylais to slow with it(his ult scales with AP too). Its a bit stupid(especially Rylais, BC was even meta on him for some time before its nerfs) because usually he canjust build normally and still be a bit of a threat

Hayaishi21 votes

Tbh its simply because RIot doesn't want to. Snowballing with Lucian isn't easy, he isn't a free win early game either, supports have more agency than he does, his early game strength isn't enough to warrant being useless if he falls behind.

That is why i've always thought he'd be healthier if he scaled better into late game and loses some early game power.

Akenero1 votes

His w gives a Ms buff to his entire team if they attack whoever got hit?!?

xDogMeatx1 votes

actually it just gives lucian a move speed booster.

Akenero1 votes

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actually it just gives lucian a move speed booster.

Okay, yeah that's odd, but regardless, it's something that keeps a consistent dps safe, and that's the biggest purpose of an adc, consistent dps

xDogMeatx1 votes

hes a assassin style adc. which means after his whole rotation theres nothing he can use like having attack speed steroids-wise to continue his damage unless he has lethal tempo on.

preternatural1 votes

what you talking about? the electric slide move helps any situation.

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