Smurfing in ranked has existed since the dawn of league... its time for it to end.

YoungFarmer··2 votes·445 views

Hi, I'm currently in gold 1 atm and I see smurfs almost every other game. I personally believe that smurfs ruin the integrity of the already poor ranked system.

Reasons to attempt to end smurfing. A) smurfing hinders climbing and fun for lower elo players. B) smurfing is by all means a legal way of boosting players which ruins the ranked system. C) sometimes but not always, smurfs are more toxic as they have a superiority complex or they just don't give a fuck if the account they are playing on gets banned.

Please end ranked smurfing.

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needHymn3 votes

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YoungFarmer2 votes

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And now, do tell how to end smurfing.

1 account per Ip address. Slightly rash but there it would work. Played other games that have that system.

Out of all the people I know, I know far more smurfers than people with siblings or other family members who play.

Or disable duoing in ranked. 80% of the time I encounter a smurf its because they are duoing.

Kaioko2 votes

IP address tracking doesn't work that's been discussed in the past. Disabling duos is a possibility especially with Flex being available but I'm not sure that it would stop it.

YoungFarmer1 votes

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IP address tracking doesn't work that's been discussed in the past. Disabling duos is a possibility especially with Flex being available but I'm not sure that it would stop it.

It definitely wouldn't increase smurfing.

DuskDaUmbreon1 votes

It wouldn't increase it, but it'd be useless effort, because it'd have zero impact.

Mig891 votes

The could do the same thing they do in Korea where your league account is tied to your license number/ SS number.

DuskDaUmbreon1 votes

Except literally nobody is ever going to do that here.

Nobody's giving out their SS number for a game, and not everyone has a license to use, nor would anyone use it for a game. At least not in the Western world.

BladeSteel4 votes

And what about college campuses? They usually share IP address in the dorms.

Quiet Dude2 votes

Hopefully not too soon. I plan on getting this account to 30 once I finish with my other one.

I got like one main account with all my skins, champions, wards, icons, etc. and then I’ll have these 2 accounts for all the crazy stuff I want to do.

I don’t know how much longer I’ll be playing, but I’m gonna get real weird with it.

I’ve always had this dream of playing ranked Yasuo and Riven in every role, I think I can make my dream come true.

I thought about making a 3rd smurf account, but 2 should be ok.

Edit: I'm open to discourse if you have a problem with this, as I'm already seeing down votes. No need to be passive aggressive.

Kiharon1 votes

Not someone that voted on your reply, but I think i can shed light on some of the reasoning people have. While you haven't indicated that you plan to do any of the things the OP was referring to, you have indicated a plan to do things commonly complained about relating to smurfs.

You have, in your own words, said you plan to do "crazy stuff" and will "get real weird with it" on these second accounts. This implies that you will be doing things that you know may be poor choices. Because these choices are all being made on a second account, you can rest secure knowing that your main account is safe in whatever rank it is. If things go bad, you just ignore the extra accounts and never play them again.

However, the other players in your matches are likely to be on their main and probably only accounts. These players now have the integrity (and fun) of their ranked experience affected by your desire to try "crazy stuff". If your "crazy stuff" is bad, you could say you are 'helping' 5 people on the enemy team and only 'hurting' 4 people on your team, and vice versa if it turns out good. I would not agree that any of these people are benefiting at all outside of a bit of LP on the record books. Having a feeder (intentional or otherwise) impacts the enjoyment of the match even for the winning team. There's a fine line here between meta-slaving and picking what you like, so I can't really draw a line and say "here be feeding".

Let's relate this to another game. Suppose a pro basketball player, let's say Lebron James (Is he still good? I don't follow basketball), decided that he didn't like having to play games on the pro schedule, or maybe he decided he wanted to try all 5 positions, but doesn't want to risk his pro status by having bad games while he's just trying crazy stuff. So, he puts on a wig and registers himself as Norbel Smith (it's a magic wig, nobody can tell it's him) in the local community league, which has divisions and tries to pair people up by experience and skill level and will move you up and down over time. Now he gets paired up with all the other players without experience, instead of the division where former college players start. Eventually, he should get promoted into these leagues because he's just so much better than everyone else. If he's trying crazy stuff, maybe he doesn't actually promote out because he's playing so bad his teams get way behind and he can't fix it by being more serious later in the game (not that he cares, he's just screwing around on the weekend. he knows he's a pro). Either way, he's ruined the games for all the inexperienced people who signed up for some moderately serious, evenly matched basketball games. The analogy might be a bit stretched, but I think it highlights the general sense of what a smurf really is and how ridiculous it would be in more traditional competitive sports and games.

If you only plan to play these extra accounts in unranked games, the problem is slightly diminished, but not gone. Everyone needs somewhere to practice things, and unranked games are considered the right place to do so. However, there's still some expectation of putting forth a level of effort, unless you have a full group of 5 that all agreed to just screw around. (It would be nice if there could be an unranked queue for "real" games and "fun" games, but that's not likely to be feasible from a queue health perspective.) You may put forth effort most of the time and be polite, but there will be a temptation to care less about your behavior in these games, since you can just go back to your main.

Quiet Dude1 votes

I basically plan to take these accounts into ranked and play with some weird, really weird off meta picks. I plan on trying 110% with these really weird shit picks, and yes, if these weird ass picks don't work out, I don't want the stats on my main account.

But have no fear, I'm not a troll or a toxic team mate. I plan on trying my hardest with support Yasuo/Garen/Jhin. That's why I love smurf accounts- can play ranked, have fun in ranked, and make weird shit work. I can understand people being apprehensive but... it is a video game, and none of us are pros.

Glad we understand each other.

I Eat Ąss1 votes

If you can't beat them then how to you expect to deserve to climb to their elo?

YoungFarmer3 votes

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If you can't beat them then how to you expect to deserve to climb to their elo?

Irrelevant. I shouldn't have to beat a diamond while playing in gold.

Thats like saying how you expect to ever make it to the NHL if you can't beat an NHL player while you're playing house league.

Ahri Baka1 votes

Actually yes , sick of MasterYi Katarina Twitch mains dominating my matches because no one knows how to play against them

SwiftKitten881 votes

honestly i dont think its an issue..

i get 1-2 moron teammates every single game maybe once or twice out of every 5-10 games i get 4 teammates who can actually play.

i get issues with smurfs like once every 50-100 games.

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