Riot, how was this jungle item passed into notes?

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Skirmisher's Sabre: PASSIVE - CHALLENGING SMITE Smite can be cast on enemy champions, marking them for 6 seconds. While marked, you deal 18-69 bonus true damage to them on hit, have vision of them, and reduce their damage to you by 20%.

This Smite upgrade is by FAR the most easily-abused and very over-bearing when used with a jungler (Or ANY lane) that builds up Attack Speed or has an AS steroid. I remember seeing it used to have a 3-hit limit when cast, but was changed to 6 seconds and has no tooltip to a hit limit, making this skill very overpowered for champions that counter-jungle to kill the enemy, gap-closing AD champions, and overall any champion that can attack fast while sticking to them.

Not only does this skill have plenty of power to abuse, it's supposed ganking/dueling equal, the **Stalker's Blade ** only deals 164 true damage at max level.

PASSIVE - CHILLING SMITE Smite can be cast on enemy champions, dealing 28-164 true damage and reducing their movement speed by 50% for 2 seconds

The slow is nice, but the damage dealt is far too little to be used for ganking when the jungler has any form of gap-closer, CC, or speed steroid. If the latter jungler is in the game, the Skirmisher's Blade is not only 2.5 times more effective in damage at max level (If you land one hit per second while the mark is in place), but it reveals them in bushes so they cannot get away from your attacks, and they deal 20% less damage, making top-lane bullies or fed ADCs easier to handle.

Unless you forgot to add this hit-cap to the tool tip, I HIGHLY suggest you revise this item for how the jungle plays out in higher-tiered games.

Sincerely, A concerned Jungler

5 Comments

Xemeron1 votes

Meh, tried challenging, and belive me, the only one who really can abuse it is warwick. But hell, its not even funny when he does xD That Ultimate... I had Devourer, Wits end and BORK, I ultied a Malza, used the smite on him when I started the Ult... I droped him from 100% to nearly dead with just my ult, after that 1 Q, kill. I was like "Whaaaaaaaat"

But for other junglers... its meh. Its ok, but not really that broken. Its pretty sweet when your enemy team has invisible champs though.

In case of chilling, I agree. Its kinda not worth it, maybe if it wasnt on a 60s CD... I used to build it on Evelynn, but later noticed that I do way better with the rangers upgrade.

Vore Monster1 votes

Did the challenging smite have a hit limit when you tried it, and have you considered champions like Udyr, Lee, Kha, and Yi?

And I feel like the Chilling Smite needs some type of buff to compete with the other smite buffs.

JadeKnightblazer1 votes

Did the challenging smite have a hit limit when you tried it, and have you considered champions like Udyr, Lee, Kha, and Yi?

And I feel like the Chilling Smite needs some type of buff to compete with the other smite buffs.

What would happen if Chilling Smite would root the target in place? Be the same effect as Lissandra's Ring of Frost (W)? Then I could see this smite being very helpful on slippery Targets.

Vore Monster1 votes

I feel like it would cause too much trouble for the enemy getting smote. If the slow would still apply, but granted a movement speed buff to allies moving towards the target that had a longer duration would allow non-jump junglers to get in close and the ally laner to initiate faster, while both getting sticking potential.

Xemeron1 votes

Nah, already had the no limit. It sounds alot stronger on paper than it really is. Remember, the 69 damage is on level 18, and at this point thats not really that much any more. Yes, I tried it with Udyr too, but I found rangers way more usefull throughout the game, since it helps you sustain your jungle.

Not saying that challenging is weak, its not. Its a good item to get. I mean, it should be, after all, it comes with a 60s CD and means you cant smite the jungle creeps, which already makes it a bad choise for alot of junglers in early/mid.

And yes, as well chillig smite AND the counterjungle smite need some work done.

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