Tenacity feels very useless right now.

Vore Monster·1/13/2016, 5:37:57 PM·36 votes·2,766 views

With each new update and champion released, their CC somehow seems to always link to a knock up, knock back, or AoE. Even if they aren't, it doesn't feel like tenacity does anything against these new champion's stuns or roots.

But I'm not just blaming new champions. Some champions have such a long CC duration or the ability to spam it about that, when chained together, the tenacity isn't going to play any part of your survival.

Is there any way we can change how tenacity works to better improve it's reliability?

24 Comments

JohnTheLibrarian1/13/2016, 6:00:05 PM3 votes

It used to add together additively rather than multiply (I think thats the correct way to say it?) Basically it used to be 25+25 = 50 Now its something like 25 & 25 = 30 It'd be interesting to see if switching it back would help at all

also its sad to see Zephyr gone, it was an interesting ADC option late game when I could trade boots for it

g07h4xf001/14/2016, 7:27:15 PM3 votes

Put 35% tenacity back on item 3111 and release a new defensive item that gives tenacity that CAN STACK with item 3111 multiplicatively. There's too much CC in the game and most of it (as you mentioned, knock-ups, knock-backs, etc) already ignore tenacity completely.

Ralanr1/13/2016, 5:40:22 PM3 votes

Too much tenacity makes CC feel irrelevant if it isn't a knock up or similar.

Spoofghoul1/13/2016, 7:49:37 PM2 votes

With the nerfs to tenacity making it stack additively seems like a good idea Also we need more options for tenacity and slow resistances.

ZT Xperimentor1/14/2016, 7:29:42 PM1 votes

How about bringing back zephyr!

Chespin20131/14/2016, 3:17:12 AM1 votes

just buff merc treads tenacity really

Llanite1/14/2016, 6:55:05 AM1 votes

Knocks are always 20-30% shorter than other hard CC of the same ranks, which is the tradeoff of them being reliable.

Alternatively, they would just buff knock to be 20-30% longer and makes them subject to tenacity, which I doubt anyone would like to see.

Smitty Manjensen1/14/2016, 2:38:54 PM1 votes

Unless you're Irelia or Dr.Mundo it's useless.