Since summoners are gone, minions need new lore

Vore Monster·Nov 27, 2015·49 votes·4,089 views

With all of this "no summoner" lore coming out, one of the most important things in the game now make no sense to exist....

MINIONS!!

Originally, they are puppets controlled by weaker summoners to train them before they command champions, but now they do not exist!

Are these minions still puppets controlled by "summoners?" Are they a construct created by some hextech engineers? Or are they two living tribes of creatures in an endless war against one another????

Riot, we need to know!!!! Give minions the lore that they deserve!!!

45 Comments

Earl EulrichNov 27, 201526 votes

from what we know they are forced on the map against their will and use what little power they have left to creepblock the heck out of players to at least not go down without some protest...

though ofc that map doesn´t exist and they are only gameplay-tools without any story whatsoever as Riot obviously doesn´t do that kind of stuff anymore.

CupcakeTrapNov 28, 20152 votes

[{quoted}](name=Don Eulrich,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=62Qotz9d,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2015-11-27T18:46:28.528+0000)

though ofc that map doesn´t exist and they are only gameplay-tools without any story whatsoever as Riot obviously doesn´t do that kind of stuff anymore.

As I see it, minions are what they always were. Riot has openly said it is not going to try to make up lore to explain us (the Summoners) or the matches themselves. Their focus is on telling stories about Runeterra.

In a strange way, this makes minions retcon-proof. I would say that it also makes Summoners retcon-proof, at least as far as the game is concerned, but Riot's indicated that it's going to come along and recreate Summoners as something other than "mages pledged to the Institute of War who assist Champions on and off the Fields". So at some point we'll have the strange situation of two types of Summoners: we'll have the Summoners in the game, who are classic Summoners (Summoner spells, etc.) and we'll have New Summoners, who are presumably going to be some kind of summoning mage-priests running around Runeterra.

tl;dr: The lore following the Great Retcon expressly states it does not aim to explain the game itself. The game itself exists in its own pocket universe. Whether it is loreless or just retains the original lore is a question without an official answer.

BlitzidiousNov 27, 201512 votes

An ancient race of warrior midgets, cursed to forever traverse the lanes of the rift..

BattalionNov 27, 20158 votes

Season 1: Summoners Fearsome warriors from different planes controlled by Summoners were called Champions Minions were just puppets controlled by the lower class Summoners for practice The reason they fought was to decide major laws on the Fields of Justice!

Season 6: Players, not summoners, control fearsome warriors from different planes with no real history randomly fight each other in this gladiatorial arena just for shits and giggles.

So why does Nocturne exist? Why can you hear Sona ? Who's trying to contain ? Why does Olaf say "I'm going"? Is he just mental? His entire purpose is to fight for justice Varus , the hell is here for fighting Garen , JarvanIV , XinZhao ? Why does Swain and Darius waste their time here?

FastAsHeckNov 28, 20153 votes

Why does say "I'm going"? Is he just metal?

He is part of Pentakill :^)

warmcorntortillaNov 28, 20153 votes

Orianna Literally has no lore at all now, her entire lore was retconned along with the league.

ADepressedLeonaNov 28, 20153 votes

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Literally has no lore at all now, her entire lore was retconned along with the league.

Pretty much all the champions from season 1 and part of 2 need a lore retcon now..

Jesus Died 4 YouNov 28, 20151 votes

Riot said that the actual league of legends game itself doesn't exist. There are bunch of cool people in the world of Runeterra and for whatever reason, you get to play as them.

DreamspitterNov 29, 20151 votes

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Riot said that the actual league of legends game itself doesn't exist. There are bunch of cool people in the world of Runeterra and for whatever reason, you get to play as them.

Smash Bros.

Blue Moon WolfNov 28, 20151 votes

Why did MonkeyKing even bother hanging around to learning Wuju since MasterYi doesn't have the League to offer him? How does Zilean regain his consciousness if he's not getting summoned to the rift by summoners? what does Ahri do for souls if she's trying to keep from killing people for souls (I have a theory, but that doesn't make it cannon)?

CubedJusticeNov 28, 20153 votes

Mordekaiser "You only need to click once, fool!"

Milodic MellodiNov 29, 20151 votes

I totally heard that from this XD

Milodic MellodiNov 29, 20151 votes

Why does LeeSin exist either? As a League member I mean. If there's no such thing as a Summoner, Lee Sin wouldn't have been able to kill the child/village in his Lore. Unless it was simply "he was the only one who did it, no one expanded on it because it was too dangerous".

Ebonmaw DragonNov 27, 20156 votes

They are the army of Veigar, an army of evil yordles with robes and things like that.

SevixysNov 28, 20152 votes

You, Sir deserve a cookie item 2009

RozairNov 27, 20155 votes

I like the endless war idea

SevixysNov 28, 20151 votes

Maybe another consequence of the Rune Wars? When the Magelords and Protectorate fighted and Aatrox turned the flow of the battle against Magelords, the sides should fight endlessly trapped in these celestial planes (yeah, fields of justice are not Canon anymore) due to Bard punishing the Rule-breaking forces, thus making the paradox Aatrox made - insignificant.

So, the minions would be souls of the Rune Wars participants, fighting forever - thus preventing the spread of the corrupting influence into the cosmic fabric Bard is bound to protect.

ADepressedLeonaNov 28, 20155 votes

"Lore that actually ties into it's game? What is this nonsense!? Here at Riot games we take lore that's cool and interesting like that and shit on it, Garen-teed" -Riot games

RespectPlusNov 27, 20154 votes

And Summoners Rift needs a new name

Epic Mad ManNov 28, 20154 votes

I think summoners still exist but the Institute of War does not. This would mean weak summoners are still employable (or they might find themselves replaced by some hextech automation from Piltavor with help from and possibly Ziggs ...siege engines maybe...) I would like to see One minion stand too close to an exploding Nexus and Become a champion. Name: Winion Height: X2 of regular minion (slightly bigger then Yordle size) Role: Support main Story: After a horrible ACE at the enemy nexus the enemy team ran strait for his home base thinking they killed all the minions. Smugly leaving one behind as, "what could he possibly do?" Winion, then minion, walked stalwart into their base and proceeded to smash at the nexus. By the time the next swarm arrived and before his last ounce of health was taken from him, he gave the last blow to the doomed Nexus. Needless to say the summoners controlling the enemy team payed a heavy price for their bronze 5 mistake. The explosion was grand and left him sentient, not vanishing with his fellow minions. Days would go by as he waited alone wandering Summoners Rift until a new match started. When the next match was up, he simply walked around aimlessly as both sides would attack him, so he hid. When he was finally found neither side could claim him and in a very Very rare case, the match was halted to determine what this absurd anomaly was. It was then decided since he was in fact sentient and capable to survive on his own he should be removed and studied further. None were more interested then Heimerdinger who graciously allowed him to stay at his home after the match as an assistant so long as he shared his findings. As Heimerdinger's assistant, he would be the first to test the latest equipment such as Winion's Axe, Wand and Book, Souped up Siege Engine, and translator communicator that helps Winion speak to other minions as well as the occasional animals and monsters that Heimerdinger might have in his lab. Winion became something of a showcase in Brandle City. With visiters coming far and wide to view the strange site of a minion outside of the Fields of Justice. The attention was good for him as he learned to interact in a social manner but a bit bothersome to Heimerdinger as it interrupted his studies, but he would bare this for Winions sake so Winion could learn what it means to socialize and be a member of society. Desiring to repay the Yordle community for its kindness he has joined Heimerdinger in the League as a champion for Brandle City with his master's inventions in hand. Passive: Remember! Winion has been blasted by towers and smashing on the Nexus and Inhibitors countless times. Sharing his wisdom, he gives his fellow champions around him 2% endurance and damage against objectives that are near him.

Q: Toys in the Attic! Winion switches from melee to wand and book which will scale respectively from (X AD) for melee and (X AP) for wand and book. Enemy champions attacked by Winion are taunted towards him for (X) seconds and can not be taunted again with the same type of attack in a row. (cool down 15 Seconds)

W: Come Together! Winion can either inspire his fellow minions or convert enemy minions permanently. When activated Allied minions gain (X) times their stats which will swarm an enemy champ for (X) seconds. Permanently convert enemy minions that are targeted will have half the stats, and worth half the gold when slain by the enemy, who will swarm an enemy champ for 2 seconds. (for each enemy minion converted by the activation of that spell gain 1 gold and share with champions in range) (cool down 20 Seconds)

E: Back in the Saddle! Winion Summons a souped up Siege Engine with bucket seat that one allied champion can choose to ride in by clicking the seat. Siege Engine Winion gains 10% speed boost that degrades over (X) seconds and launches cannon balls for (X) dmg plus (X AP) which slows enemies by (X%). The ability ends after (X) seconds of driving off. (Allied Champions can attack from bucket seat) (20 second cool down)

R: Sweet Emotion! Winion Inspires ALL allied lane minions to be super charged Minions that gain X% stats plus X speed) for (X) seconds that will redirect focus to the closest enemy Champion or objective that comes into view. This can also be done to converted minions.

Joke (near minions): Winion will martch back and forth like a regular minion wile squeaking something similar to hut 2 3 4. Joke (Winion pickets with a large sign that says, "Save the Minions" marching back and forth. Taunt: Winion points and makes a squeaky laugh at his enemy wile holding his stomach. Dance: Winion starts squeaking Sweet Emotion into his wand wile grooving with his music.

DreamspitterNov 27, 20153 votes

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With all of this "no summoner" lore coming out, one of the most important things in the game now make no sense to exist....

MINIONS!!

Originally, they are puppets controlled by weaker summoners to train them before they command champions, but now they do not exist!

Are these minions still puppets controlled by "summoners?" Are they a construct created by some hextech engineers? Or are they two living tribes of creatures in an endless war against one another????

Riot, we need to know!!!! Give minions the lore that they deserve!!!

#Summoner's Rift does not exist.

Neither do minions.

They don't need lore.

qetzelNov 27, 20152 votes

They don't really. The new lore doesn't have any relation to the game now. Like it or lump it.

XulsigaeNov 28, 20153 votes

Except when it does and champions can't be played for being 'dead' or champions taunting each other by name and such.

SirHeavyScrotumNov 28, 20151 votes

That whole gangplank thing was dumb, though they actually took him down to change his appearance as part of his update. I would've preferred if they did it all at once. "Here's a whole story along with a skin line to hype up this new champion rework oh except you can't play him because he died in the lore."

Myles JTNov 27, 20152 votes

The lore and the game are no longer the same anymore, so they really don't.

Ironclad DragonNov 28, 20152 votes

They could just not have any lore... yes, I already see the downvotes. But if the point was to free up the champions from the confines of the League, what's the point of further defining something that was just intentionally left behind... I liked the old lore, really did. But I also like this new direction a lot more...

Carpe VictoriaNov 28, 20152 votes

They are giant chunks of impassible brick wall in disguise.

SevixysNov 28, 20152 votes

Why this one doesn't have more upvotes?

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

po555Nov 28, 20152 votes

The lore I can think of right now is that from the magic extremely used in seasons before tencent the minions still have a lot of magical stored in the nexus so they kept on spawning, using the logic that gromp has, because group is a magically transformed frog with magic, so since the minions still see champions they just go over to fight.

ThePartyLeaderNov 28, 20152 votes

This all makes so much sense. I always wonder why people just needlessly tower dive in game and repeatedly die. It's how they were trained to play the game!

GenoXxNov 28, 20151 votes

They don't need lore at al...ya know...because thats the game part of LoL? And the stated numerous times that the game and lore are seperate

The EllimiistNov 28, 20151 votes

If summoners are gone then why do a ton of voice lines still mention it and summoner spells are still called summoner spells? >.>

Really though at this point they should just announce lore is dead and gone. Now all champions are just some champions controlled by players in a game.

DreamspitterNov 29, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Ellimiist,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=62Qotz9d,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2015-11-28T02:49:09.592+0000)

If summoners are gone then why do a ton of voice lines still mention it and summoner spells are still called summoner spells? >.>

Really though at this point they should just announce lore is dead and gone. Now all champions are just some champions controlled by players in a game.

All lore is dead?

What about all the NEW lore, including 40+ pages of Burning Tides?

That aside not everything has been updated yet.

YorukinNov 28, 20151 votes

If they're going to get new lore, I'd like to see it alongside lore for Summoner's Rift. The League itself isn't exactly a thing lore-wise, and the battles that take place on the Rift (or any other map, for that matter) are pretty much imaginary. Summoner's Rift itself is really just a magical mountain place with the remnants of a Void Rift sitting around in there.

Mister SunglowNov 28, 20151 votes

Since when did Riot remove summoners? What have I missed...

Vincent LuciusNov 29, 20151 votes

A lot, my friend. Tell me, What does the word "Juggernaut" mean to you?

DreamspitterNov 29, 20152 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mister Sunglow,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=62Qotz9d,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2015-11-28T13:30:16.800+0000)

Since when did Riot remove summoners? What have I missed...

#I'll tell you what you missed:

http://i.imgur.com/PiptTEo.png http://i.imgur.com/1I2CeIb.jpg http://i.imgur.com/rY6nj4B.jpg

That aside the last time the League of Legends was mentioned in anyone's lore was in Varus' lore on his release in mid 2012.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVO8sUrs-Pw

##September 2014

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/creative-spotlight/dev-blog-exploring-runeterra

GreenLoreNov 28, 20151 votes

Honestly that whole thing about summoners training with minions never made much sense to me. I mean are these summoners really so stupid that all they do with their minions is run in a straight line and blindly attack everything in their way? Are they ordered to do only that?Can't these minions just walk on their own?

Epic Mad ManNov 28, 20152 votes

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Honestly that whole thing about summoners training with minions never made much sense to me. I mean are these summoners really so stupid that all they do with their minions is run in a straight line and blindly attack everything in their way? Are they ordered to do only that?Can't these minions just walk on their own?

Everybody starts somewhere, genius. You got to learn how to crawl before you can walk. They got to learn the basics before controlling champions.

RyzeReworkNov 28, 20151 votes

its 2 factions now it said when the new rift came out the stag and something else i forgot

Ryzing2DiamondNov 28, 20151 votes

The Stags and the Owls

layritNov 28, 20151 votes

We have the Sentinel at the lower left and the Scourge at the upper right that fight to destroy the Frozen Throne and the Tree of Life respectively...

Oh, its the wrong year, sorry, I thought we were in 2005, not 2015.

Milodic MellodiNov 29, 20151 votes

Quite frankly, I'm still waiting for Tristana to get her own lore. She's awesome enough to get it, it's like Trist is the Poppy of Lore (thank Nagakaboros she's also not the Poppy of ADCs that'd be pretty awful since I main Trist)