You guys took the health, the HP regen, and the aura from Locket.

TheLittlestLulu·Nov 16, 2016·35 votes·1,638 views

Did you really have to take the CDR from it too?

36 Comments

DracocrashNov 16, 20169 votes

"theres too much free cdr in the game"

"OMG RIOT WHY DID YOU REMOVE CDR FROM MY ITEM"

There's no pleasing the boards.

TheLittlestLuluNov 16, 20168 votes

[{quoted}](name=NoganksOnlyFarm ,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HjEuqUhu,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-11-16T09:05:05.026+0000)

"theres too much free cdr in the game"

"OMG RIOT WHY DID YOU REMOVE CDR FROM MY ITEM"

There's no pleasing the boards.

Sorry to burn down your strawman, but I want you to find a single post where I ever said this.

LeetriNov 16, 20169 votes

There's been lots of threads both here and Reddit saying that CDR is much too common and that Riot should remove it from some items. The person you replied to never said that YOU complained there was too much CDR, just that the boards in general have.

SpoofghoulNov 16, 20164 votes

Yes in particular on ENCHANTER support items

and guess what item 3174 item 2301 item 3222 item 3050 item 3069 item 3092 item 3107

But locket was also used by tank supports who lacked cdr in their itemization

they can now pick between item 3401 & item 3110

SilverjustNov 16, 20169 votes

heal and shield supports had way to much CDR, so they removed CDR from locket. Now tanky supports have a problem to get 40%CDR. They can´t go item 2303 , they have to get item 3401 item 3110 item 3060 (maybe on some champs in some situations item 3107 ) every single game.

My Waifu VanillaNov 16, 20162 votes

I mean Redemption is a pretty busted item so I don't see how it is a situational item even (pretty much better than FH in every conceivable way).

SilverjustNov 16, 20161 votes

I mean on a tank-support its not that great, because it has no armor or mr just health and the shield/healpower is not that great on many tank-supps, the active is very strong, but doesn´t help you that much at tanking. Its propably better than I thought but still, I feel like there are options missing (maybe something with mr and CDR?).

EcchiOtakuTMNov 16, 20163 votes

If you ever say you heard too much tank supp cdr, you're a dirty liar.

Dominick DestineNov 16, 20164 votes

[{quoted}](name=NoganksOnlyFarm ,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HjEuqUhu,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-11-16T09:05:05.026+0000)

"theres too much free cdr in the game" "OMG RIOT WHY DID YOU REMOVE CDR FROM MY ITEM" There's no pleasing the boards.

Except that was almost always in reference to items like item 3078 item 3508 item 3071 etc.

I don't think I ever saw anyone say "Too much CDR,therefore nerf Locket" and I check the boards on a very regular basis. Your argument is complete trash.

EndlessSorcererNov 16, 20165 votes

Players pretty much never never complained about supports having too much CDR.

Any complaints about the prevalence of CDR were generally directed towards ADCs and mages.

Ariel the CruelNov 17, 20161 votes

Pure supports used to have more CDR than every other stat. So "never" is a bit strong. Then again, Supports also used to have more unspendable gold than every other lane combined thanks to wards. (>_>)

EndlessSorcererNov 17, 20161 votes

Boots of Speed + Philosopher's Stone + Kage's Luck Pick + Green Wards + Pink Wards

Janna Yay, full build.

6SfoolNov 16, 20166 votes

I like the new locket. It scales better with itself now. I will miss the aura though, since it saved my teammates from so many mage combos. There does need to be more cdr itemization for tank supports though.

Face The LewdNov 16, 20164 votes

It's funny because it's still busted as fuck rn But yeah I hope they add cdr back onto it after nerfing it's ridiculous active

Packun FlowerNov 16, 20161 votes

Is it though? I have not seen a support build it once this season and i myself wont build it because item 3107 is honestly better then it in every way.

item 3190 is honestly more suited for tanks now then it is supports. And i am seeing toplane tanks build it now.

EvewynnNov 16, 20161 votes

Why not both?

KensueNov 16, 20161 votes

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SilverjustNov 17, 20161 votes

I thought it has 400 HP?

DauksNov 16, 20162 votes

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Is it though? I have not seen a support build it once this season and i myself wont build it because is honestly better then it in every way.

is honestly more suited for tanks now then it is supports. And i am seeing toplane tanks build it now.

why not both?

SilverjustNov 17, 20161 votes

when its better for tanksupps, it should give CDR

Zach SandwhichNov 16, 20163 votes

I agree item 3107 being added and the CDR being removed kinda invalidated getting locket (Unless your playing MAXIMUM SHIELD NAUTILUS, which is so fking troll, but so fun at the same time, item 3190 item 3401 item 3040 item 3026 item 3158 )

zlumpyNov 16, 20162 votes

Stop takin ma auras rito!!!

Dominick DestineNov 16, 20162 votes

New Locket is garbo.

RisenDarkKnightNov 16, 20162 votes

It's actually really, really good. Most high elo games have at least 2 lockets per game, sometimes 2 per team. The active shield is just huge. Also, it does give 60 MR now (as well as 30 armor), while being fairly cheap.

Dominick DestineNov 16, 20161 votes

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It's actually really, really good. Most high elo games have at least 2 lockets per game, sometimes 2 per team.

That's complete nonsense.

Try to peddle those lies to someone that doesn't regularly play against masters and other diamonds.

Attticus FinchNov 17, 20163 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HjEuqUhu,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2016-11-16T22:46:35.717+0000)

That's complete nonsense.

Try to peddle those lies to someone that doesn't regularly play against masters and other diamonds.

I can't verify his claim, but it IS objectively a popular support item. Going by Probuild stats, it's present in 50-70% of every tank supports' build on the pro circuit.

GayFluffyUnicornNov 17, 20161 votes

Masters? Lulz you are dia 5 :D Your last twenty games weren't even against diamonds maybe one or two.

Dominick DestineNov 18, 20161 votes

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Masters? Lulz you are dia 5 :D Your last twenty games weren't even against diamonds maybe one or two.

I was Diamond 5 in S6.

S7 I am currently Plat 3. Reading comprehension is not a crime.

SylvantNov 16, 20161 votes

feels like they prepare it for deletion

DunkinNoobsNov 17, 20161 votes

They removed the superfluous CDR on the item that usually ended up being wasted and made the shield stronger in exchange, and you're complaining. You literally traded worthless stats for useful stats and you're unhappy about it.

SilverjustNov 17, 20161 votes

CDR is not a worthless stat on a tank-support

DunkinNoobsNov 17, 20161 votes

It often ends up being worthless since your builds often end up having more than 40% CDR.

SilverjustNov 17, 20161 votes

tell me how to get easy 40%CDR on a tank-support

DunkinNoobsNov 17, 20161 votes

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tell me how to get easy 40%CDR on a tank-support

item 3110 item 3401 item 3107

SilverjustNov 17, 20161 votes

so I should get item 3110 every single game? And item 3107 is not that great on many tank-supports. item 3060 is situational. If I get Frozen Hart every single game maybe, but there should be more options. There are only two buildpaths that make sense for tanksupporter to get 40%CDR, what if they dont fit on a champion and/or game?