"Syndra isn't OP. Just dodge her AOE stun and targeted ultimate, bronze scrub!" - Syndra main

TeemoXNidalee·Oct 9, 2016·9 votes·2,442 views

https://puu.sh/rtGsz/036452778d.webm

100-0 with no items, balanced.

26 Comments

MiraweaveOct 9, 20166 votes

Yeah Syndra's ult does a completely unreasonable amount of damage.

They should probably just rework it into something else.

A Latte DeathsOct 9, 20161 votes

It honestly isn't Syndra's ultimate that's the issue, it's the reworked W that gives Syndra 24/7 access to her 7 sphere ultimate with minimal CDR that's toxic.

SwiftKitten88Oct 9, 20161 votes

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It honestly isn't Syndra's ultimate that's the issue, it's the reworked W that gives Syndra 24/7 access to her 7 sphere ultimate with minimal CDR that's toxic.

she still needs to max her Q before she can do a 7 sphere ulti

A Latte DeathsOct 9, 20161 votes

Yes, you're correct. Note that having access to her 7 sphere ulti in itself isn't toxic or bad design, what's toxic is that she has 24/7 access to it with her maxed W and can keep it up indefinitely with blue buff. Syndra is balanced around the idea that she has to ramp up her ultimate by creating spheres and that she only has a small window of time when her ultimate is at its strongest; the MYMU expanded this window to be as long as Syndra has mana for a W.

CatastropOct 9, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=A Latte Trouble,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Hhq03T8V,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-10-09T18:33:37.231+0000)

It honestly isn't Syndra's ultimate that's the issue, it's the reworked W that gives Syndra 24/7 access to her 7 sphere ultimate with minimal CDR that's toxic.

I actually agree here, it also makes her stun way too easy land.

MiraweaveOct 9, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=A Latte Trouble,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Hhq03T8V,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-10-09T18:33:37.231+0000)

It honestly isn't Syndra's ultimate that's the issue, it's the reworked W that gives Syndra 24/7 access to her 7 sphere ultimate with minimal CDR that's toxic.

Not really. Her ult damage at level 6 is one of her biggest problems, and that's well before she gets her upgraded W.

PennsOct 9, 20166 votes

No items? She had 2 dorans, bronze scrub! Kappa

A Latte DeathsOct 9, 20164 votes

She has 2 Doran's rings, blue buff, and Varus built no MR. On top of that, he got hit by literally every ability + a 5 sphere ultimate. I'm sure there are plenty of mages who can 100-0 someone with 2 Doran's Rings if the enemy gets hit by literally everything without MR.

The only balance issue with Syndra atm is the change that was made to her W in the MYMU.

SwiftKitten88Oct 9, 20164 votes

.. she had blue buff 2 item 1056 rings.. she slowed him with her w landed a sphere on him then stunned him THEN she landed a 6 sphere ulti on him.. which is the max you can do at lvl 6.

in other words.. a burst mage played it perfectly... and landed EVERY ability she had to kill an adc..

how is that not normal?

Alpha SamsuniOct 9, 20163 votes

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Just dodge her AOE stun and targeted ultimate, bronze scrub! -Syndra main

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dodge her targeted ultimate

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targeted ultimate

ChalizardOct 9, 20161 votes

He was being sarcastic I guess

Smoke and SteelOct 9, 20163 votes

It's okay, TSM still didn't make it out of groups.

2yordles1cupcakeOct 9, 20163 votes

Did I just time t raveled? Is this 2013?

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Syndra's Q base, hitbox on her E, and DFG being removed (though Riot believed this to be a non-factor for Syndra.) have all contributed to Syndra's winrate being amongst the lowest in the game.

Can we admit she was over-nerfed and roll back some of this? I don't know who thought DFG being removed didn't impact Syndra that much but... As far as I am concerned it was just as essential of an item on her as DFG was on Veigar.

Cake, Riot's balance team is a joke, we're always back to square uno.

Vistha KaiOct 9, 20161 votes

I don't think I've ever seen a Syndra OP QQ thread for as long as I play - which is like since a month after Syndra's release.

Then the Season 6 came around.

yoshi2790Oct 9, 20162 votes

Varus could've flashed.

kappa.

LoLKiruOct 9, 20162 votes

While I think Syndra might be a bit of a problem (shes definitely not as crazy as people make her out to be though; W changes were probably the tipping point and just changing her passive's W buff in some way would probably fix her)

This is a TERRIBLE example of this. Bjergson landed literally EVERYTHING and crown made several mistakes, hell he pretty much played it as BADLY as possible (he was late with clease, and then he walked back towards Syndra very briefly after breaking the stun.)

Edit: While we're on the subject, she only had 2 dorans; but aren't mages known for having their abilities scale better with level rather than items, Unleashed Power is also designed as a single target burst skill, with very few other skills like it (are there any other single target burst ultimates? I can't actually think of any off the top of my head)

Varus also had 0 MR items, so he had the base of 30 MR (plus runes / masteries)

Edit 2: holy shit I forgot Veigar.

MarshbouyOct 9, 20161 votes

Oh boy the mage lovers have hit you.

Vistha KaiOct 9, 20161 votes

Let's break down what went wrong in this video.

Immobile ADC mid.
1 second late Cleanse.
Walked back in like an idiot.

CatastropOct 9, 20161 votes

First off, it's a Varus mid, I don't know how a pro can make that pick and expect to be respected in the slightest in lane. Also, he literally walked back into her face when he could have just kept walking away, I'm not even going to mention that Cleanse and had he bothered to build something as simple as a item 1033 he'd clearly have survived.

EDIT: Because I typed too fast and missed a few words.

AnomanderOct 9, 20161 votes

Super squishy adc with no MR or HP items not even a Dorans..... gets 100-0 by a full combo mage burst? Seems Legit.

Emerald FangOct 9, 20161 votes

WTF is everyone bitching about Syndra now? Okay, here's the order of QQing champions on boards in the last 3 months or so, from oldest to newest:

Master Yi Fizz Zed Caitlyn Yasuo Syndra

What's next? Probably urgot at this rate. Because these champions recently QQed are even LESS broken than the ones at the top.

1 800 MID LANEOct 9, 20161 votes

So early/mid-game burst mages and assassins shouldn't be able to 100-0 something when they hit everything with blue buff? Let's nerf LeBlanc, Viktor, Diana, Malzahar, and Orianna.

Oh, and Cassiopeia, Vel'Koz, Brand, Xerath, and Lux.

LitAFOct 9, 20161 votes

Veigar can do the same thing wheres the QQ threads about him at??????

TricolorStarOct 9, 20161 votes

Hi there, Syndra main here. The key to countering Syndra is this:

Stop taking ADC's mid. I've said it once and I'll say it again: Syndra, as well as her relatives Vel'Koz and Lissandra, are designed to single out one person and destroy them. ADC's are not known for their toughness so they crumble to test under Syndra's balls. Other mages can match her burst, but ADC's don't do burst.

BoulderoxOct 9, 20161 votes

it isn't wrong... she has too much power now on ult with how she can keep her balls up so long now and throw 3 total, makes her stun easier to hit a least one. but then we have the queen of bronze Annie easy to play, mana costs super low, insane burst with ult, if she doesn't 100-0 you, and you kill her somehow, tibber does the job for her.... i just don't get the idea behind tibbers hindering you by survivng one of the strongest burst combos in the game and counter killing her....