STOP WITH THE ARDENT BULLSHIT, RIOT. This is honestly absurd.

WoonStruck·Sep 18, 2017·8 votes·623 views

The very, VERY best class at supporting the ADC, usually including peel/survivability, should NOT offer the very, VERY best offensive power for ADC as well.

That's bullshit.

Nerf Ardent. It doesn't need 'compensation'. If you're going to grant its effect to the support as well, what it offers should be NERFED, not buffed.

You realize its going to be over 200% gold efficient now with a SINGLE TARGET HEAL/SHIELD, right?

You're only making Janna, Taric, Sona, Soraka, and Lulu even stronger.

10 Comments

NoPaxtSep 18, 20174 votes

Tanks offer it too.... if they run Stoneborn Pact and it's more brutal...

JbelsSep 18, 20174 votes

Like they even fucking care. This bullshit will continue as long as ADC players keep pretending their precious role deserves to be as strong as it is.

MuzétSep 18, 20173 votes

Nerf Ardent. It doesn't need 'compensation'. If you're going to grant its effect to the support as well, what it offers should be NERFED, not buffed.

They've just got rid of the healing part that was frustrating on top of shield which was giving the impression that you didn't deal anything since the shield was protecting from damage while the Marksman could heal himself. Furthermore, the drain was working even more when you got your hands on item 3085 since triple drain. Now they got rid of this healing part they can givemore offensive power. I'm okay with that.

JbelsSep 18, 20172 votes

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They've just got rid of the healing part that was frustrating on top of shield which was giving the impression that you didn't deal anything since the shield was protecting from damage while the Marksman could heal himself. Furthermore, the drain was working even more when you got your hands on since triple drain. Now they got rid of this healing part they can givemore offensive power. I'm okay with that.

The extra attack speed means more DPS which means more lifesteal. The drain might as well still be there, and now the item gives more damage.

MuzétSep 18, 20172 votes

You still need to build it. Whereas before the drain it was right away there plus it wasn't affected by healing red

SuperCosmicHoboSep 18, 20172 votes

Give item 3504 a cd, that's the only reasonable answer to it for the passive healing/sheilding. Probably a 15-30 second cd on it after the effects go down 6 seconds.

YUUKI VKSep 18, 20172 votes

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Give a cd, that's the only reasonable answer to it for the passive healing/sheilding. Probably a 15-30 second cd on it after the effects go down 6 seconds.

OR make it 800 gold more. as im ok with the insane power but it needs to be way more expensive. all that item does it make ad no matter who it is have a much faster powerspike. ALSO all healers and lulu need to be nerffed a bit. legit atm whoever gets lulu/jnna/raka wins. pretty stupid. maybe to make the heal buffs on all support items have diminishing returns so they dont stack at 100%. as that in itself it broken in every way...

but hell Riot seems to be going into another slum where they dont know wtf to do with obvious broken things. that very few people actually like to play vs. i do hate metas where bot lane has 70% of the power in the game.

plus higher elos its still straight up whoever has less autofill wins......