Kennen's inability to CS at all post-15 minutes really needs to be looked into

Yenn·Jan 22, 2019·2 votes·1,233 views

His only form of wave clear is coincidentally also his only escape/mobility mechanism, which makes it unusable once the game becomes a 5v5 clusterfuck, which in turn results in Kennen being completely denied all CS unless he knows where the entire enemy team is and has a wave to himself.

Using it to wave clear in the mid to late game opens you up to being assassinated or run down by juggernauts/bruisers, since Kennen is a team fight champion who is incapable of 1v1ing anything after the early game.

This is some shit tier design from 2010 that has no place in the current state of the game.

8 Comments

ZeroAgainstJan 22, 20197 votes

0/10 bait

BeatzBoyFTWJan 22, 20193 votes

This is some shit tier design from 2010 that has no place in the current state of the game.

So are the other 140+ champions according to your perspective.

MiracleMorg94Jan 22, 20193 votes

Stop exaggerating. Kennen has great 1v1 potential at all stages of the game especially after early so I don't know what you are smoking. He's one of the best pro champions as well which completely invalidates your argument. I just played him last night as well on another account.

He can CS mid game fine. His E isn't his only waveclear. I auto and the finish off with Q as my main farming tools to save my E most of the time. And using it once in awhile doesn't leave him open to being jumped on unless you're stupid and use it when they have more than two people in the lane and it's just you alone.

Kennen is fine, has a great kit and is an amazing champion to play. We don't need useless nerfs or changes just because a person here or there complains about something that isn't even a problem in the first place.

DuskDaUmbreonJan 22, 20192 votes

I'd be fine with that if we made him also have counterplay at any point in the game.

Because, really, there's nothing you can do against someone running at you faster than you can possibly get away, mashing R and Zhonya's, and getting a free 5-man stun and dealing large damage.

Make Stasis stop his ult, reduce his ult's damage, and make it possible to actually get away from him, and then, sure, give him waveclear.

Albus RumbledoreJan 22, 20192 votes

You are out of your fokin mind, if something, kennen is going to get nerfed(not really, his win rate is good, that's all Rito cares about). Jeez. His laning is so safe. How can you have this opinion and be dia? No offence bruh, but why are you talking about him after one game. I mean, you can have your opinion, even when it is bad one :/

PS. item 3152

Tahminatrix Jan 22, 20191 votes

Isnt that his main weakness that keeps him in check, most champions that cant directly carry/snowball need good reliable safe waveclear, kennen is more on the snowball/lanebully side.

YennJan 22, 20191 votes

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Isnt that his main weakness that keeps him in check, most champions that cant directly carry/snowball need good reliable safe waveclear, kennen is more on the snowball/lanebully side.

Kennen can't duel virtually any common top laner unless they play extremely poorly and feed pre-6. His damage output is too low. In a flat 1v1, the best scenarrio for Kennen is escaping alive; there is zero kill potential, and by extension zero carry potential, unless you're playing in low MMR.

Bad players panic when Kennen harasses them and don't retaliate. This is probably why you think he has any carry or snowball potential; he actually doesn't. Almost every juggernaut has the ability to engage on Kennen from his auto range, and he loses any trade due to his poor 1v1 damage.

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You are out of your fokin mind, if something, kennen is going to get nerfed(not really, his win rate is good, that's all Rito cares about). Jeez. His laning is so safe. How can you have this opinion and be dia? No offence bruh, but why are you talking about him after one game. I mean, you can have your opinion, even when it is bad one :/

PS.

https://i.imgur.com/80qEd3q.jpg

I've only been playing Kennen since season 1, 'why are you talking about him after one game' lmfao.

The win rate is primarily due to his relative safety, low pick rate, and top lane being the #1 role for auto-fill. He shits on anyone who doesn't know the match up, but he flat out loses post-6 to any and every juggernaut or bruiser.

The EcdysiastJan 22, 20191 votes

If only that were actually a problem. Though his consistent status as one of the strongest picks at the highest levels of play regardless of the state of items says otherwise.