It takes a level 18 Twitch 6 seconds and 6 autos to deal 216 true damage.

Tentakill Myself·Aug 4, 2015·7 votes·783 views

Meanwhile Vayne can fly around the screen invisible and burst tanks down in 6 hits.

24 Comments

SaltyKrackaAug 4, 20155 votes

Yes, because one champion's (admittedly underpowered) passive is directly comparable to another champion's actual abilities.

7ha7guy777Aug 4, 20155 votes

Meanwhile every 3 ability hits Vel'Koz does 235 true damage at level 18

PiRoScOuTAug 4, 20151 votes

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Meanwhile every 3 ability hits Vel'Koz does 235 true damage at level 18

Please don't talk about my main. I don't want the nerf bat beating him to a pulp.

7ha7guy777Aug 4, 20151 votes

Neither do i. He has clear strengths and weaknesses.

MongooseAug 4, 20152 votes

http://i.imgur.com/pb4F9tQ.png not surpised that someone like you would have this kind of logic

twitch's passive is not supposed to be a main part of his damage, while vayne's is.

vayne doesnt get like 800 attack range auto attack that is aoe in a line while also having a 70% attspd boost after 7 seconds of stealth

and stop acting like the true damage is the only part of twitch's abilities that matters.

he probably has just done a ton of damage within those 6 seconds, more than vayne.

Tentakill MyselfAug 4, 20152 votes

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http://i.imgur.com/pb4F9tQ.png not surpised that someone like you would have this kind of logic

twitch's passive is not supposed to be a main part of his damage, while vayne's is.

vayne doesnt get like 800 attack range auto attack that is aoe in a line while also having a 70% attspd boost after 7 seconds of stealth

and stop acting like the true damage is the only part of twitch's abilities that matters.

he probably has just done a ton of damage within those 6 seconds, more than vayne.

Please continue rank shaming me. It really helps show that higher ranked players are less toxic and more mature.

MongooseAug 4, 20151 votes

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Please continue rank shaming me. It really helps show that higher ranked players are less toxic and more mature.

700 ranked games this season and still in silver 5?

M SchumacherAug 4, 20153 votes

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Please continue rank shaming me. It really helps show that higher ranked players are less toxic and more mature.

That's not even toxic.

You have 800 ranked games this season and are still in Silver V.

You aren't really qualified to make claims about game balance.

MongooseAug 4, 20151 votes

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That's not even toxic.

You have 800 ranked games this season and are still in Silver V.

You aren't really qualified to make claims about game balance.

thank you

NA DarklarikAug 4, 20152 votes

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Please continue rank shaming me. It really helps show that higher ranked players are less toxic and more mature.

Less toxic? Doubtfull More mature? Good luck with that.

More knowledgeable? Fuc*ing hell yes (on average).

SO please, shss and listen scrubl0rd :v

Bears Dont CareAug 4, 20152 votes

[{quoted}](name=NA Darklarik,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HZOuMJPd,comment-id=000300000002,timestamp=2015-08-04T02:33:49.005+0000)

Less toxic? Doubtfull More mature? Good luck with that.

More knowledgeable? Fuc*ing hell yes (on average).

SO please, shss and listen scrubl0rd :v

You are not really showing it by insulting his rank. Just a though. Anyway I believe what the op is trying to explain is the fact that twitch is a significantly weaker champ overall to vyne despite being weaker in early game capability.

MarthianAug 4, 20151 votes

Even though Twitch can be just as devastating when positioned right.

DisasterSolaAug 4, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=NA Darklarik,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HZOuMJPd,comment-id=000300000002,timestamp=2015-08-04T02:33:49.005+0000)

Less toxic? Doubtfull More mature? Good luck with that.

More knowledgeable? Fuc*ing hell yes (on average).

SO please, shss and listen scrubl0rd :v

Your rank means very little... You can have enough mechanical knowledge to be, say, plat, but not the technical skills.

Likewise, you can have practical skills but be an actually shit player.

Troy242621Aug 4, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Pk gts,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HZOuMJPd,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-08-04T01:43:13.216+0000)

http://i.imgur.com/pb4F9tQ.png not surpised that someone like you would have this kind of logic

twitch's passive is not supposed to be a main part of his damage, while vayne's is.

I disagree with the OP, but that's just not true. Being a poison DoT-based ADC was his entire concept. He had W to apply poison, his passive to apply poison and his E to detonate poison. That was his whole schtick, up until they castrated every part of it.

MongooseAug 4, 20151 votes

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I disagree with the OP, but that's just not true. Being a poison DoT-based ADC was his entire concept. He had W to apply poison, his passive to apply poison and his E to detonate poison. That was his whole schtick, up until they castrated every part of it.

source?

Bears Dont CareAug 4, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Pk gts,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HZOuMJPd,comment-id=000300010000,timestamp=2015-08-04T03:06:07.529+0000)

source?

Check the twitch patch history. iirc they nerfed his dot strength very hard. iirc his dot from level 1 was 12 true damage a stack. no 15 I think starting at level 1

MarthianAug 4, 20151 votes

It's currently 12/18/24/30/36 over 6 seconds per stack (starting at lv1 increasing each 4 levels 1/5/9/13/17)

LaceUp23Aug 4, 20152 votes

Twitch can have an AA range of 850 with an AD steroid AND AAs that pass through to the next target.

Meanwhile, Vayne just gets a small movespeed bonus when walking towards enemies.

Oh look, I can also sound like a moron.

67chromeAug 4, 20152 votes

Twitch can critically strike an entire team on top of doing 216 true damage to 5 people at once though...

A Twitch with a penchant for good positioning is the deadliest late-game marksman in the game. He's capable of the most damage in the least time, AoE crits are no joke.