Zoe just started the game with a Heal and two Ignites from minions, guess I'll just lose the lane

Yenn·Jul 1, 2018·3 votes·1,064 views

Great champion design, 10/10.

10 Comments

Tahminatrix Jul 1, 20183 votes

When zoe`s long range skillshots are just as deadly as her unavoidable point and click damage from W and the sums she picks up.

I would be happy if they gave her back the crazy damage on her e q combo but made her sleep damage amplification magic instead of true damage, and then gutted her W.

Meep ManJul 1, 20182 votes

You can't have the crazy damage on the EQ combo be back and ALSO change the damage amp to magic instead of true.

Also, I still think it's dumb that people don't realize the damage on her E is doubling a source of damage (up to a cap) that is ALREADY being reduced by armor or magic resist, so if it was turned to magic damage, it would be double reduction.

Tahminatrix Jul 2, 20181 votes

Then she would be rewarded even more with hitting squishy champions if they increased the ratios and cap to compensate....and tanks wouldn't feel as bad for bodyblocking.

Colton147Jul 2, 20181 votes

Zoe is a very mechanically intensive and high skill ceiling champion.

AtmosphereJul 2, 20181 votes

She really isn't though. Yes, she has some cool outplay potential, but her skill floor is stupidly low. Waveclear is very easy with a bit of AP, her W gives advantages in every possible way (Redemption, Ignite, Protobelt, Cleanse, etc), her CC lasts a very long time and gives a small animation showing where an enemy is if they're hit in fog, and her Q is a spammable skillshot that moves fast and isn't that difficult to hit. Her skill ceiling is moderate at best, and her skill floor is stupidly low. The only thing you need to learn once you get how her kit works is weaving her passive autos and using her R to redirect her Q.

Malix FarwinJul 2, 20181 votes

So you saw the spells on the minions and instead of pushing her out(her wave clear is actually really weak for most of laning) you not only let her kill them but also let her pick them up without punishment, and let her use it on you.

Malix FarwinJul 2, 20181 votes

Let me go ahead and take a quick look at Yenn's match history to see how often he lanes's against Zoe so that i know he is making a well informed post here:

So 4 out of 60 games did he actually play against a Zoe. Yup enough data to make an informed decision.

Another thing taking a look at your match history you typically get stomped into the ground quite regularly by a single champion. Most noticably are Talon and Leblanc . Basically if anyone picks a burst champion against you, you seem to auto lose most of the time because you refuse to build against them.

Ironically not only are your Zoe games not your worst ones but they are not the ones where your mid laners are the most fed.

You have a 26% WR on Ziggs and only 4 games against Zoe. Do not thing Zoe is the problem bud.

AtmosphereJul 2, 20181 votes

"This player hasn't played a million games against a champion, I guess their opinion is wrong!" It doesn't take a lot of playing to see whether or not a champion is strong or weak. Discrediting an opinion because they haven't played as many games as YOU deem necessary for an informed opinion doesn't help your case at all.

Malix FarwinJul 2, 20181 votes

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"This player hasn't played a million games against a champion, I guess their opinion is wrong!" It doesn't take a lot of playing to see whether or not a champion is strong or weak. Discrediting an opinion because they haven't played as many games as YOU deem necessary for an informed opinion doesn't help your case at all.

Yea hyperbole my statement that'll validate you. you do not need to play "a million games" but you do need to play more than 4 out of 60 games. If you are expecting to know how to play against a champ with that little games against them i dunno what to tell you.

Its All SkillzzJul 2, 20181 votes

I just hate the rng factor, like she can be losing early an pick up a protobelt active or redmption/heal and all in. ive also had one pick up exhaust an just all in me with exhaust/ignite at lvl 3. not alot you can do about her damage even if she dont land E Q. most time i just play ap ezreal and 1 shot her with burst but even then it can backfire when she picks up my own 3400g item active an uses it on me.