That's when you know damage is a problem.
I just watched a clip of a full tank ornn getting killed from full hp in 1 
combo, WITHOUT ULT.
What is the point of building full tank when you are still only be able to use 1 rotation of spells in a teamfight anyway?
WukongMain3 votesIgnoring the fact of Evelynns capability to ignore a targets magic resist, What was the state of the game? was evelynn fed? was ornn super behind? did eve have 3 infernals? elder dragon buff? whats the context of this one shot
ZephyrDrake3 votesah yes, the clip of the tank with no MR items and that is actually BEHIND getting one shotted by the fed AP assassin... yeah that sure is a good thing for you to base any sort of argument from
Death by Glamour3 votesnot that I disagree with what you say
it shows how much overkill damage assasins have, orn would likely have about 3 - 3.5k hp and no amount of magic resit would save him considering void staff and allure (40% and 35% respectively magic pen)
your average adc/midlane squishy whom are usually her target will have no where near the defensive stats of ornn
ZephyrDrake1 votes[{quoted}](name=Death by Glamour,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HMZvsEWu,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-01-19T22:45:39.133+0000)
not that I disagree with what you say
it shows how much overkill damage assasins have, orn would likely have about 3 - 3.5k hp and no amount of magic resit would save him considering void staff and allure (40% and 35% respectively magic pen)
your average adc/midlane squishy whom are usually her target will have no where near the defensive stats of ornn
HP on it's own is useless. I have no idea why people think that a champion that is behind and isn't even building proper defenses against the main threat of the enemy should be able to survive just due to the HP they have. Squishies shouldn't just be able to survive an assassin's burst. Squishies should learn to position themselves properly and have their team actually peel for them instead of literally letting them die. I don't care about defensive stats when people are not building them. HP and resistances work best when combined. Getting 5k HP and no resistances is just as pointless as getting 500 armor and no HP. You really aren't achieving much of anything by doing that. It has been the case even all the way back to season 2.
Beerstein2 votesYou mean the one with the full build eve+magic potion with 0 defense vs someone with 1 magic resist item? I saw that too. Imagine if someone hit the eve back with her 0 defense. Imagine if a full build adc right clicked her and shot one single auto attack.
TL;DR It'd be a shame if a full build ADC right clicked the full build once...a damn shame...
Let's see Eve: Void staff -40% mres Allure: -35% Mres Sorc shoes: -18 Mres Morellonomicon: -15 Mres Sudden Impact -6 Mres
1 Squishy boi: 53.4 Mres 1 Squishy Boi Spirit Visage: +55 Mres 1 Squishy Boi Null Magic Mantle: +25 Mres =133.4 Mres (actually 141 based on rounding+probably runes) 141-75%=35.25-39= -6.75 Mres...RIP (She DID land her Allure in this case so all her damage would effectively be true damage for the duration of Allure.)
Contrast that to him having 49.35 mres had he not been in a position to let her land her allure and attack him while his team was behind...Pretty huge difference between that and -6.75. Can't blame the game for him being out of position.
and you REALLY don't want me to calculate how much AP she had...I'm pretty sure it was around 900+. You let someone get that build and have 133.4 mres to defend yourself with, you deserve to get splattered like a bug on a windsheield. The same way she deserves it if an ADC actually right clicks on her.
Just as a how did I get 900+, well I did veeery rough math and could even be on the low side because I didn't put a ton of time into it but I did research that players Eve runes. This is from her secondary runes alone: Gathering storm (that's like 119 more AP at that point with Rabadans synergy alone), and Absolute Focus (uhoh, 56 more). That's 175AP from 2 secondary runes simply because the opponents let her synergize and let the game go on so long.
Her other runes for scientists: Electrocute, Sudden Impact, Eyeball Collection, Relentless hunter (assume full stacks) and match history: https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2951075003/237026843?tab=stats&participant=10
I'm all for less damage and more defense in LoL, but when it comes to literal end game, and people have stacks upon stacks of items synergizing (like with Rabadans as was the case here for one example) things SHOULD move at a very rapid pace. Otherwise Riot failed in giving teams the tools to end game after literally having nothing left to buy.
TL;DR Every stat has some sort of syngery be it small, or major, so every full item you add to a champion, the more effective each is going to be. Don't leave the game in the hands of full builds if you don't like this. You know who is really difficult to pull off early game? Evelynn.
TL;DR the TL;DR Don't feed the purple thot.
Critmaster Garen1 votesAllure: -35% Mres
why is this a thing then? why is the mr pen not flat?
assassins jobs is to take out squishies, not tanks. why does she need % mr penetration?
SpaceRazzerKappa1 votesWell evelynn pretty much removes every single magic resist point you have with her W and items not to say is balanced but there are bigger issues at the moment with the balance of the game
ı Sona ı1 votesWhen you say "full tank" was he a full MR tank or...?
ZephyrDrake1 votes[{quoted}](name=ı Sona ı,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HMZvsEWu,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-01-19T22:59:59.968+0000)
When you say "full tank" was he a full MR tank or...?
by "full tank" he means "HP sponge that wasn't really full build and had next to no MR against an AP champion that was fed"
DragonShea1 votesMy response to getting assassinate as a tank.
