How about making +MS% not stack? Skill shot champions are fucking terrible right now

Yenn·Oct 17, 2017·1 votes·532 views

Just got to enjoy a great loss where the enemy Akali had a constant 460 MS (without Cloud being up), making it both impossible for my team to stop her from split pushing because we had no targeted CC, and impossible for me to actually hit her with anything as Vel'koz, as the only one who could 1v1 her.

This is a pretty general problem, and one of the main reason the only viable mids right now are champions like Syndra, Annie, and Malzahar. Skill shot-reliant champions cannot function with the absurd amounts of mobility in the game.

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ModWulf HelhammerOct 17, 20174 votes

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Aim better. Or maybe consider not handicapping yourself in champion select if you can't do that.

Pretty DhiziOct 17, 20173 votes

Akali wasn't even your teams problem. Orianna was dominating your team.

Only reason she had that MS was due to 2 cloud drakes. Even then, that's only out-of-combat movement speed.

Her movement speed in combat = 409.5 -- Rounded up, 410. This is Lichbane+Ludens for 17% bonus MS.

410 movement speed is not hard to get or deal with. And you are also lying -- There's no way she could be at 460 ms without cloud drake being active. The only time she would be at 460 MS is -- like the math shows, is when cloud drake is active. AKA, when she's NOT fighting you.

You picked an immobile champion into a hypermobile assassin. You built raw damage rather than build any health to counter her capabilities to dive you. If you wanted to counter her diving capabilities, you should've went Rylais/Rod of ages/Liandries to give yourself some survivability through health. This still would've provided you ample damage and EXCESSIVE utility for your team which could've snowballed victory on your teams end.

This wasn't a situation of something being broken. You miss-aimed many skillshots on a champion that /literally/ has to hug you to do damage. It shouldn't be hard to land your knockup (which has a large radius and only a 1 second travel time), and then instantly combo her down with all your spells in quick succession to delete her. You had to of made numerous miss-plays to die to her.

Your first mistake was your build. If you were concerned about her capabilities to get on and hurt you, you should've built more defensive items than just an hourglass (which, is only taking you OUT of fights for 2.5 seconds, while more health and defensive stats could've kept you IN the fight). I can assume your second mistake was rushing your spells in panic trying to pick Akali off at the right time, or your reaction speed was poor.

YennOct 17, 20171 votes

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Akali wasn't even your teams problem. Orianna was dominating your team.

Only reason she had that MS was due to 2 cloud drakes. Even then, that's only out-of-combat movement speed.

Her movement speed in combat = 409.5 -- Rounded up, 410. This is Lichbane+Ludens for 17% bonus MS.

410 movement speed is not hard to get or deal with. And you are also lying -- There's no way she could be at 460 ms without cloud drake being active. The only time she would be at 460 MS is -- like the math shows, is when cloud drake is active. AKA, when she's NOT fighting you.

You picked an immobile champion into a hypermobile assassin. You built raw damage rather than build any health to counter her capabilities to dive you. If you wanted to counter her diving capabilities, you should've went Rylais/Rod of ages/Liandries to give yourself some survivability through health. This still would've provided you ample damage and EXCESSIVE utility for your team which could've snowballed victory on your teams end.

This wasn't a situation of something being broken. You miss-aimed many skillshots on a champion that /literally/ has to hug you to do damage. It shouldn't be hard to land your knockup (which has a large radius and only a 1 second travel time), and then instantly combo her down with all your spells in quick succession to delete her. You had to of made numerous miss-plays to die to her.

Your first mistake was your build. If you were concerned about her capabilities to get on and hurt you, you should've built more defensive items than just an hourglass (which, is only taking you OUT of fights for 2.5 seconds, while more health and defensive stats could've kept you IN the fight). I can assume your second mistake was rushing your spells in panic trying to pick Akali off at the right time, or your reaction speed was poor.

Good post, your Gold level analysis of things that didn't happen is spot on, just like your failure to arithmetic.

Akali didn't touch me. She split pushed. I can't land anything to stop her split pushing because her MS is so ridiculous. She has 350 + 45 from boots + 17% from Luden's and Lichbane.

What's 395 * 1.17? Holy. Fucking. Shit. It's 462.15! Which is more than 460!

This is one of the most retarded posts I've ever read, because literally every single thing you wrote is completely wrong. Please spend more time learning the game and less time posting.

The reality is that movement speed increases the window you have to react and avoid skill shots. When it reaches this level, you have to be a retarded monkey or in melee range to actually get hit by anything.

Pretty DhiziOct 17, 20172 votes

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Good post, your Gold level analysis of things that didn't happen is spot on, just like your failure to arithmetic.

Akali didn't touch me. She split pushed. I can't land anything to stop her split pushing because her MS is so ridiculous. She has 350 + 45 from boots + 17% from Luden's and Lichbane.

What's 395 * 1.17? Holy. Fucking. Shit. It's 462.15! Which is more than 460!

This is one of the most retarded posts I've ever read, because literally every single thing you wrote is completely wrong. Please spend more time learning the game and less time posting.

The reality is that movement speed increases the window you have to react and avoid skill shots. When it reaches this level, you have to be a retarded monkey or in melee range to actually get hit by anything.

Guess I can say now "Git gud" because wow, you are beyond salty and childish. Bet you've got a ban history dont'cha?

still doesn't make up for the fact that your team could've sent Sej/gnar to deal with her. Now you just gotta work on your skillshot ability and salinity. That parts harder. And maybe look up movement speed caps.