Would tanks become viable if you simply increase defense stats from items by 50%?

Weensw·Aug 6, 2018·1 votes·791 views

Suppose Riot gave all items with any defensive stat a flat 50% increase and change nothing else including the item cost, would that make the game more healthy? or would it not do a thing? or would it make the game worst?

Some examples:

Sunfire Cape:

HP - ~~425 ~~-> 638 Armor - ~~60 ~~-> 90

Negatron Cloak:

MR - ~~40 ~~-> 60

Spirit Visage:

HP - ~~450 ~~-> 675 Magic Resist - ~~55 ~~-> 82

Frozen Heart:

Armor - ~~100 ~~-> 150

With changes like this, I would feel the game would:

Tanks(not bruisers) become OP early game and still inferior to everyone else late game.

8 Comments

ModThe DjinnAug 6, 20184 votes

This would be an insane buff to all tanks and bruisers.

MrFawknSunshineAug 6, 20182 votes

well issue would be then those stats are making every one tanky not just tanks.

i feel the biggest issue to tanks is lack of stats pre 10 mins from runes. before rune reforged you could go with a full tank rune page and have def stats in lane to sustain the lane phase now you dont, conditioning dont take effect til 10 mins, you cant get cdr til 10 mins from transcendence, if you take resolve you get 15 hp at lvl one which isnt anything.

the issue lies that brusier/fighters have just as much hp and same armor/mr as a tank at lvl 1 with damage out put where tanks dont have damage out put or tank stats to lane with.

RalanrAug 6, 20181 votes

But what’s to stop bruisers from benefiting from them? Hell, better tank items means bruisers can invest in less tank items than they do now to get some durability.

KhristophorosAug 6, 20181 votes

50% is probably too much. The items can be built by damage dealers too. So if all it takes to negate an ADC or assassin is to just build a Frozen Heart as a bruiser that makes it worth buying. You don't have to be a tank to build tank items.

WeenswAug 6, 20181 votes

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50% is probably too much. The items can be built by damage dealers too. So if all it takes to negate an ADC or assassin is to just build a Frozen Heart as a bruiser that makes it worth buying. You don't have to be a tank to build tank items.

First of all, What would be an appropriate number in this case?

If ADC or mages benefit from the defense item buff, I wouldn't say it is a bad thing, as it solves the one shot meta without having to give supports more utility.

But I can see the fact that even if we adjust the ratio to a good number, bruisers will probably ruin the fix.

Beatrice fallsAug 6, 20181 votes

No, they need to remove the source of true damage on items and runes they recently brought. But they won't admit they made a mistake and will keep fucking everything up until the game closes

Tahminatrix Aug 6, 20181 votes

This is why we need defensive items to scale better and interact with other defensive items, so pure tanks can be more tanky and bruisers / juggers will only get a moderate (to severe) love tap.

WeenswAug 6, 20181 votes

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This is why we need defensive items to scale better and interact with other defensive items, so pure tanks can be more tanky and bruisers / juggers will only get a moderate (to severe) love tap.

Wow, I can't believe I didn't think of this before....this is actually a good idea...

However, I remember bruisers used to buy 1 damage item and the rest tank items in seasons long time ago.