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Tychusfindlay919··14 votes·884 views

Chogath seriously sucks balls.

http://champion.gg/champion/Chogath/Top

Where is the love for this ancient relic? What can be done about him? Where are the mains or otherwise compassionate people calling for his rework or buffs?

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ZT Xperimentor4 votes

Rather have him quietly decent; than reworked & nerfed, or overbuffed then gutted. He's one of the few tanks that can carry; and unlike others, he has a harder time dodging attacks if fed.

Tychusfindlay9194 votes

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Rather have him quietly decent; than reworked & nerfed, or overbuffed then gutted. He's one of the few tanks that can carry; and unlike others, he has a harder time dodging attacks if fed.

"quietly decent"

In what world? His best role is mid with a terrible 47.8% win rate. Top is sub 46% and jungle struggles at around 42% win rate, all with a low play rate.

PrimeWraith2 votes

he is balanced...

Sir Fuzzi2 votes

He's just protracted, which is a very suspicious state of affairs in a meta that pushes hard mobility and faceroll burst.

I think Cho'gath does well for himself, he could probably use a spruced up passive or a touch up on the vorpal spikes (either something new or a change to them).

He's what I like to call a dated design; he doesn't match up to contemporary designs and would feel out of place as a modern release. It doesn't make him bad, it just makes some matchups very awkward. I imagine he'd have a tough time against some of the more slippery competition.

Handy Sandy 1 votes

He's really strong when his mains play him though, he isn't that weak. Look at when his mains play him mid, he does even better there.

Danjeng1 votes

Cho'gath is pretty solid, but somewhat outdated when compared to all those new champions with multiple dashes. How would you ever land a rupture, or get within range?

WoonStruck1 votes

He functions fine mid/jungle.

His issue top lane is that he's not overloaded/doesn't have insane base numbers/CDs or an in-combat sustain tool.

Big Lincoln1 votes

Riot should revert the nerf to his W. Those "changes" put him in the dumpster.

Keep the fixed hitbox, keep the extra range, return it to old damage, CD and duration

Sona x Rubick1 votes

duration is the only thing that should be reverted

those changes were good honestly it allowed full cdr tank cho gat to bring massive dps

the silence nerf is just riot "feeling that the silence lasted too long"

Irelia Bot1 votes

He is functional and I don't think they will be doing much of anything to him until they decided to update his visuals outside of potentially some small buffs/nerfs depending on how he is doing.

He is not really being show as potentially getting an update any time soon though so don't get your hopes up.

Tychusfindlay9192 votes

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He is functional and I don't think they will be doing much of anything to him until they decided to update his visuals outside of potentially some small buffs/nerfs depending on how he is doing.

He is not really being show as potentially getting an update any time soon though so don't get your hopes up.

Functional? He's one of the most unreliable caster champions in the entire game with how much MS and dashes and what-not in the game, and his rates (win and play) in his three most prominent roles all indicate that he sucks and isn't functional.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

riot has said they will no longer do visual updates to champs. if they update they do a full VGU. chogath is probably long ways off. at least 2 years

Maximum Morde1 votes

He's a pocket counter pick for me and I do quite well with him in the right circumstances.

Unlucky471 votes

47% winrate but when I bring up akali with a 46% I get downvoted

Tychusfindlay9191 votes

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47% winrate but when I bring up akali with a 46% I get downvoted

Akali is SO HOT usually gets his upvotes. It's a cold community out there.

Of course, I contribute to the coldness, as my personality on these boards is anything but amicable. Hell, some of my threads get downvoted and some other threads saying the same stuff get upvoted.

Unlucky471 votes

Yeah the boards are pretty harsh unless you have a following. You can't even begin to have reasonable conversations about champions like lee sin or graves without getting shit on. I do tend to exaggerate but nothing too out of the way and people can't handle facts all to well especially about their favorite champions

Stephenizgod1 votes

His ultimate is stupid, like one of the stupidest ults in the game... He is gated by mana costs and 0 mobility, plus reliance on hitting his Q. I'd say that is a fair trade off for his ridiculous ultimate. I would rather no attention be brought to him at all for fear of what abomination they may turn him into.

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