What do Vayne and Ahri have in common...

iainB85·Sep 1, 2015·5 votes·596 views

...that leads them to be constant balance problems?

High mobility / self peel + hard CC.

Just stop and think, "Would Vayne/Ahri still be good without their hard CC?"

The answer is yes. The fact that they already have great kits for what they are supposed to do, then get a hard CC thrown on top of it makes them extremely hard to balance.

TL;DR Rework both Ahri and Vayne's E to something other than hard CC and they'll no longer constantly be complained about.

11 Comments

TheBestFalconSep 1, 20155 votes

your going to have to try alot harder than that to convince us that ahris 1 second stun on a slow moving skill shot thats blocked my minions is making her unbalanceable

IcyPepperSep 1, 20151 votes

I think her Q movement speed boost is a bigger problem.

Some people tell me that it's fine, and that it's other parts of her kit.

I'm honestly confused on what could be fixed about Ahri's kit, because I'm hearing so many different things.

FadedpfSep 1, 20153 votes

It isn't a problem with me. My problem is her Q mobility, she had a fully functional kit and identity before the DFG removal. And from an item that only brought burst to the table being removed, they slapped on that unneeded and infuriating mobility. Argue about her all you want but the Q was definitely over compensated when all she needed was damage buffs.

iainB85Sep 1, 20151 votes

It's not slow moving when she can dash into you, cast it at short range, then dash back out.

It's the COMBINATION of high mobility + hard cc that make them very hard to balance.

WalkingInACircleSep 1, 20153 votes

"Constant balance problems"? You mean some people complaining about them in the past couple of weeks, maybe a month?

It does make one wonder if you know what a balance problem is.

LadyRenlySep 1, 20152 votes

their boobs are distracting

AstroFerrari Sep 1, 20151 votes

Vayne's cc is conditional, you really have to not be aware of her full abilities to allow yourself to be stunned by that E

iainB85Sep 1, 20151 votes

Considering the fact that she can re-position herself really easily to get that stun off, it's really not that hard for a skilled Vayne player.

Again, it's the combo of high mobilty + CC that make it a problem. If she couldn't re-position herself easily, then yes it would be pretty easy to play against and wouldn't be a problem.

SaltyToplaneGoatSep 1, 20151 votes

Vayne is a problem, Ahri is not - absence of max%true damage, all significnt damage tied to abilities, meaning mana consumption and cooldowns, cannot build lifesteal (or sustain in general) efficiently, has no crit on her abilities and also her cc spell can be dodged.