Cassiopeia, the unloved one? About pre-season and the future.

Canastus··10 votes·1,104 views

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I've been observing the recent developments in silence so far and hoped things would turn out better for Cass, but they really haven't.

Instead of recycling the same old arguments from last season I'll focus on what has happened during this pre-season, highlighting the issues with this champion and why she should receive some of your much needed attention, Riot.


Let's start with the introduction of pre-season itself, many champions received numbertweaks to accomodate their players to the new masteries and item-changes. Most importantly, those changes dealt with mana-regeneration rates on a great number of champions - some of them even having inherent mana-refund mechanics in their kits and yet Cassiopeia wasn't among the affected parties.

I want to remind you that the last time Cassiopeia received any balance-changes was over half a year ago (patch 5.10), and those were strictly nerfs to her sustain which also drastically halved her mana-refund whenever she killed minions. We're all very much familiar with her questionable state and lack of appearances over the course of last season, and yet Riot didn't even care to remember her after all this time. She's already extremely manahungry and yet she hasn't seen any changes in that regard which definitely would greatly boost her viability. But obviously you don't want this to happen.

Patch 5.22 hits live servers and what happens? Cassiopeia is as weak as ever with games closing out after merely 20 minutes and comebacks being pretty much nonexistent due to early game champions (and their greatly buffed marksman friends) taking objectives right and left. Even right now the game remains extremely snowbally with very few instances of comebacks actually happening - you've yet to address this matter properly, Riot.

Oh, also in regard to the mastery changes - since you've removed the 5% cdr from the mastery tree, Cass can't hit 40% cdr anymore without either going over the cap or remaining below it. It's beyond me why you haven't cared to change that so far, either cut her passive down to give 20% cdr (but make sure to compensate her in another way) or increase it to 30% like it used to be when the rework came out.

Patch 5.23 comes by and still nothing for ol' Cass - but tons of adjustments for everyone else. Guinsoo's Rageblade still being as broken as ever, oh boy. And of course you had to buff Zed, after all we can't have a meta without this guy - he's pretty much a staple now, right? I wish Cass would be as popular as he is, maybe then you'd finally pay some attention to her.

Games still are onesided curbstomps with tanks being a more relevant force this time to counter the menace unleashed by your marksmen-changes. Speaking of those, Cass still can't beat any of them in a proper solo lane without being outsustained and poked to hell. I've seen more than enough adcs being taken outside of their usual lane and they're simply out of control.

Patch 5.24 finally gets released, and naturally I've expected significant changes in the patchnotes, but still nothing for Cassiopeia. Infact you went as far to nerf her only viable cornerstone mastery (Deathfire Touch) due to Brand turning every other midlaner into a subpar pick (with the sole exception of Anivia) and that's pretty much everything pre-season had to offer so far. Within those last 3 patches you haven't addressed the Cass issue even once but you definitely made sure to buff Riven, another great example of an overly popular champion receiving help the second they fall off the radar. How much more biased can you get?

I've seen the latest PBE-updates and they also seem to neglect the dear snakelady entirely, you even went as far to hand out skins for champions who already received one either this year (!) or last one whereas Cass has been waiting for almost 3 years now with few other champions like Shen, Swain, Nocturne and Kennen. At least you have full relaunches going on for the likes of Taric, Urgot and Yorick but that still doesn't mean you can simply neglect the champions I mentioned earlier.

It's objectively unfair to keep releasing skins for champions who already received more than enough attention in that regard, where's your sense of justice in all of this? I for one won't spend a single RP until you've finally taken steps to remedy that, and I've been keeping this up for almost an entire year now. At least I'll have enough saved up for the moment when you finally release something worthy after all this time.

Also please give her a proper lore-update - four (!) lines of text are a joke compared to those rich and compelling stories you've released so far. She deserves so much more than being some two-dimensional villain, she used to be a very complex character with an actual family history while struggling to maintain her humanity despite her monstrous form. You took that tragic figure and turned her into a cheap cartoon villain without any redeeming qualities, that's the biggest insult she probably has received from you.


Cassiopeia herself is an extremely unreliable champion without any real middleground when it comes to her performance. You either survive laning phase with her (and better pray your lane-opponent doesn't get fed some other way) or you become entirely irrelevant until you finally hit your delayed powerspike which is heavily gated by both her passive AND gold-income. And most of the time you're simply on the losing team since she's unable to do her job thanks to her extremely unforgiving nature and the smallest mistake locking her out of the game for 5 seconds.

Risk and reward don't have the same ratio here, they're heavily titled to her disadvantage. Now slap a very low pickrate to the mix and we have midlane's very own "Urgot". Well, with the little difference that she won't be receiving the privilege of a fullblown relaunch.

It's obvious that you're worried about changing anything about her as long as her current kit remains in place, otherwise you would have taken steps a long time ago. So what remains? Another rework of course. Please try to listen to her playerbase this time, don't repeat the same mistakes which Stashu did by simply ignoring those who actually care about her just to force down some twisted concept that goes against everything we believe in.

And maybe, with a little bit of luck, we'll finaly be able to play our poison-mage again while actually dealing damage with her poison-abilities without being limited to spamming a short range single target ability.

8 Comments

TheOvermind3 votes

Excellent post very well said. I have to say though i am very surprised she hasn't received any nerfs , due to dft and its interaction with dot Mages. Cuz sure as hell my bae karthus got his shit pushed In , even tho he is in the exact same spot as cass. Late game carry that is extremelyana hungry early, has ridiculously low popularity, hasn't received any attention for a very long time, and hasn't gotten a skin in ages .... ( I don't count chroma packs ) but riot nerfed him while vayne and yasuo still Tare everyone a new one ... Riot is clearly biased towards some champions like you said . I'm just very disappointed

FatTaco2 votes

Good post. I don't want to derail your topic too far but I've seen so many posts like this about champions and I've made some myself but all I know that will happen is unless it's a straight up rework any buffs or nerfs will just make a champion the highest picked one again. It happens every time a champions gets numbers buffed or tweaked. This isn't a bad thing for the first week but when the champion is always picked then it becomes "Hey Riot you buffed Cassiopeia but what about X champion who has been suffering ever since Cass and others got buffed" and they'll be a post just like yours talking about their favourite champion. It's getting to the point now where if Riot wants to make everyone happy they should just rework the entire meta and make every champion strong so we are in a Dota 2 territory where 90% of the champions you want to play can work in the game no matter what patch it is.

Regardless this was a really insightful post and I agree that Cass needs some help.

Xicashina2 votes

From my experience she doesn't feel weak late game but she has a lot of issues with mobility, With all the mobility in the game, I find that as cass I'm constantly run down (Even with perfect q/w micro kiting with item 3116 ) and that games seem impossible to do anything without a strong frontline. Further impacting this because she acts as a control mage yet only really has noticeable cc on her ult, she has difficulty midlaning as her pre-item 3116 team fights are pretty bad (as are her roams). As such i find i do the best with her top lane but that just further brings up the issue that she has little self peel vs assassins.

Lost In Time1 votes

Yeah so, why do you think this situation is unique to Cassiopeia?

There are champions so far in the gutter, no one remembers them [cough Yorick]

khorney1 votes

Because she used to be very strong now she is weaker since they reworked her. requires more skill to play because of position and the fact you only damage 1 person at a time, reason it's unique to her because she used to do high damage to the whole team not high damage to 1 person, you'll Get focused now because it's easy to kill you..... I used to have quite the good kda as her in NA im not lying look at my match history people stopped playing her because they realized she is weak late game

Canastus2 votes

You clearly didn't care to read my thread then:

At least you have full relaunches going on for the likes of Taric, Urgot and Yorick but that still doesn't mean you can simply neglect the champions I mentioned earlier.

Seriously, if you have a problem with Riot and the way they're treating your champion, you should take action into your own hands instead of going into other threads and telling people what to do. Make your own thread, for god's sake.

Lost In Time1 votes

Why in the hell would I read the poor presented wall of China?

Cassiopeia...supporters? have beat this dead horse to the ground, there is very little interest in these threads. Join the queue with the other forgotten champions and wait your damn turn.

khorney1 votes

...... She has been like this ever since they reworked her (weaker) then she used to be, instead of a good teamfight champ now she is only good 1v1 nothing else in turn meaning they basically turned her into a duelist you have to hit q or w followed by eee and q to do damage that's stupid and her mana hungry isn't a issue it's the fact that she isn't fun to play hell rework malz to be like her.......,

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