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Nerf Lux shield, buff Janna and Lulu shield.

ADC Yuumi··2 votes·1,645 views

I get it, Lux has a skillshot shield. But she can't miss herself, and you removed the only thing keeping her to use her W only when allies were around... the double shield only when hitting an ally with it. As a mage who stacks AP and has a heavy presence in midlane, I still question why she has such a generous scaling on her W.

Meanwhile, Janna and Lulu have been hit hard with a nerf stick. It's understandable for Janna, who grants attack damage with it. But it also means she needs to shield allies JUST as they're about to be hit. I can't wrap my head around Lulu though, as she gets a very low duration for a shield with the same scaling. And Lulu doesn't usually buy mass AP items like Lux does.

Lux can shield up to 6 seconds with her W, and shield multiple allies at that. Lulu can shield one ally for 2.5 seconds, and attaches Pix to the champion. But Pix can miss.

I'm just saying, it would be wise to bring Lux's only doubling the returning shield W passive back for much more... balance? Counterplay?

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Verxint3 votes

You can't just compare their shields in a vacuum and base your claim on that. Lulu's kit has a shit load of useful and reliable tools. Both Lulu and Janna have gamechanging ults. Janna has some of the best cucking power in the game. You can't ever compare just two abilities or it will always look imbalanced.

xDelightifyx1 votes

And that still isnt close to make up for the insane nerfs lulu got since 7.2 and better since s6. Look at zed, or every Assassine. His/their entire kit is gamebreaking and still zed got buffed last patch. He already oneshots without any problems, now its just way easier. Janna has the worst shield of all Supporter atm. Lulu was taken 60% shield duration, q and e scaling, ardent down to 12% an if that wasnt enough already they nerfed the support items because of the toplaner abusers. Lets have a look at janna. She lost her shield entirely, cause u can basically shield one spell now, without even beeing able to at least provide the attack dmg for longer than 3s (decaing) , but if the shield runs of the buff will also. If u now compare that to the current rework or Patch policy riot is following, you can clearly see that they sont want enchanters in this game. Tbh im quiet sure that riot hates enchanters. Why am i of that opinion? EVERY CHAMPION that is getting nerfed will recieve small buffs in return. Look at akali, Look at Ireli, Look at zed (He got nerfed for a reason a few patches ago).However due to riots biasedness and hatred for enchanters they wont and until now havent recieved anything to compensate the insane nerfs all enchanters recieved. Tbh that was the Moment where the dmg meta started, are you happy with that? This game is Massivly Imbalanced and let me tell you enchanters are in their worst Spot since 3-4 years right now. So pls, the man made a good Statement. Lux has insane dmg and a extremly easy shield that is to strong for how easy it is to execute. That was exaclty the argument for nerfing supports. The only funny thing is, lux actually oneshots ppl ontop of her good and easy shield, while lulu and Janna are getting oneshot easily, even if they utilize their kits perfectly. Thers just no counterpossibilty to prevent a 1600 dmg Oneshot. Lulus shield can prevent 300-500(late late game) while janna will also shield around 450.So explain me. Why it is fair that someone can Deal. Over 1k.dmg in less than 0.1 s, while im not allowed to shield properly. Take. 600 of the 1600 burst and ur adc still dies, because the assasine can just Aa ontop. There were times where u as a support had other counterplay than "get not hit" or "buy zhonyas" (<- not. Fitting for. Support, but u get my point). its just not fair to treat some champs different, just because some Rioters like them (lux, yas, zed, urgot, irelia, akali, want me to name more?). Show some love for Enchanters.

SuicidePlank2 votes

Have you seen how small this shield is? Also when they pick Lux Mid and you have neither a insta locking Yasuo or Zed, you/your midlaner deserves to be behind.

TheUrbanKitsune1 votes

"But it also means she needs to shield allies JUST as they're about to be hit."

That's... kinda the point... Were you around for Ardent meta? Where Janna was broken freelo? It takes a little more skill to use her shield effectively now, yes. The nerf was very much deserved though, as Janna had been way too good for way too long. She still isn't terrible.

Also Lux seems like she's in a fine spot right now. The shield never really feels super overbearing.

xDelightifyx1 votes

The nerf took more. Than 2% winrate of every enchanter. Even Karma, she was sitting at a bad 48% already, still got Nerfed. Lulu had 49, janna 51 and nami 53. Now why Was it necessary to nerf all enchanters, instead of just janna and nami, who were to strong. Just because Zed is strong it doesnt mean that every assasine will get nerfed. So why, except out of bias reasons, would you do that to Supports? LUX SEEMS TO BE FINE???? Yes 53% wr Sounds healthy. Wait nami also had 53%? WHEN WILL LUX BE Gutted? Right in the next Patch i admit, otherwise that would mean Riot does like some champs over others.... Wait....

Boltonator1 votes

The reason, at least the reason I can think of, for Janna and Lulu getting the nerfbat to their shields is the utility they provide.

Janna provides an AD boost and can be used on Turrets (why you would want to is beyond me))

Lulu provides utility with an on-hit component to the auto attack of whichever ally Pix is shielding/attached to, as well as the fact that before the nerf, lategame you could get max CDR and, provided the enemy never burst down the shield, recast another shield as the old was expiring, essentially making her a lategame shield-bot.

Personally I feel like it’s better to use Lulu’s E to attack enemies, especially early in the game when her AP is relatively low, then switch to using it on allies to shield them once she gets a few pieces of equipment.

With Lux, while it is insane that she can shield twice with one use of her CD, the fact that it IS a skillshot with a return trajectory relevant to Lux’s positioning, means not only does Lux have to aim for the first cast of her shield but position herself as best as possible so the return can hit her ally as well. If her ally is not in sync with what she is doing the shield will more than likely only land on them once.

Ahri Baka1 votes

High presence in mid lane ? No one plays her mid Mostly support Her mid lane pick only happens in silver and below Her high elo presence is non-existent and if she was picked , she loses and gets flamed for being an e girl

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