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Btw why is Tryndramere not gutted to Yorick levels yet?

SaltyToplaneGoat·Apr 25, 2016·2 votes·387 views

Outdated, uninteractive, about 90% luck reliant... while also attracting the worst kind of players it seems.

Is it because he's named after the company boss? I can't think of any other reason of why this perfect example of why Riot's early champion design was downright garbage is even allowed to be somewhat viable.

That champ is literally annoying to play against on EVERY. SINGLE. STAGE. of the game. Early: either he's lucky and wins lanes because of something like 3 consecutive crits, or he just sits there, farms passively and there is no way you ever gonna bully him out of lane while having gank-immunuty due to his gapcloser. Midgame he either facerolls everything with pretty much the lowest amount of possible counterplay (if he is fed) or, he just plays the entire midgame PvE splitpushing. The problem is, with towers being total paper I cannot go and help my team to take dragon or something. If I do I lose 3 turrets and an inhibitor.

And lategame... ah no, just kidding, what game even reaches lategame status anymore?

And even if you were in a straight up fight... is there any fun in playing vs Tryndramere? I have played my fair share of toplane games now. I have played vs Riven (especially when she was OP waaaaay back then in the past), I have played against RedSmite Shyvanna, Ignite-Heca-top, and so many more picks that have caused a flood of complaining threads on the boards. And yet, I would rather play against all these than against this badly designed piece of digital junk.

Not to mention that Tryndramere does in absolutely now way fulfil his lore-fantasy - and the tiny bit he does, Olaf does better, despsite also being one of the more shitty und uninspired ball-of-stats-rightclicks-you-dead-designs league has to offer.

It is obvious that this champ need a full VGU, but until then, can we PLEASE nerf him down so badly he is never picked again in my rankeds? I can't afford to waste a ban on him, considering just how many other broken picks this would enable in my games.

#MakeToplaneGreatAgain

9 Comments

WinBoatApr 25, 20162 votes

Delete his ultimate and all ultimates like it which includes Kayles, Kindred's, Tarics, Zilean, Yoricks, and passives like Zac, and aastrox and stuff.

Or decrease the duration of his ultimate like Kayles is which isn't bad anymore.

SaltyToplaneGoatApr 25, 20161 votes

The problem is not really the ult itself - it's the entire champion in combination with that ult. Kindred's is fair because it also prevents enemies from dieing. Zileans roots you in place. Taric's is telegraphed. Yoricks doesn't prevent you from actually killing him. Zac neither when you can spare 3 seconds to kill the blobs. Aatrox has to channel during the revive, can't move and you can easily back out.

Kayle, who is also a badly designed baisc-attack-spammer, is already nerfed hard. And yet, whenever there is an item that synergizes with her, she goes completly broken, causing even more nerfs. She's a candidate for a VGU too...

The problem is the entire champ that is badly designed. The ultimate is just the last drop that makes it entirely shitty to play against.

HEAljvLykdApr 25, 20162 votes

Someone get rekt by Trynd...

SaltyToplaneGoatApr 25, 20161 votes

Someone just got reminded why 4 consecutive crits with zero crit items are bullshit.

TBH I just left the game. Not playing against that. People can play their badly designed no-skill champ, no problem with me. But like HELL am I going to give them a fun or challenging game. The worst experience one can have in league is still a hollow victory, and that's something I have no problems giving these players.

DarkLarvitarApr 25, 20161 votes

as a riven main I guarantee you they arn't the top of being toxic

SaltyToplaneGoatApr 25, 20161 votes

I'm not saying they are the total worst, but he seems to be in the group of top-offenders when it comes to toxic players.

Not sure how this even works, or if a champion's design can actually make you a toxic player, but that's my observation of more than 4 years of facing Tryndramere players on toplane or having them on my team.

StrawberrycocoaApr 25, 20161 votes

I'd like it if Tryn was only invulnerable UNTIL he got a kill, then it goes away and all the super-ultra-safe tower diving can finally end.

Crusader50Apr 25, 20161 votes

It's frustrating because the only way to fight him is to kite until his ult wears off but not every champion can do that.

M Dragon14Apr 25, 20161 votes

Could pick teemo and make him remember what pain is. Or maplhite, or trundle, or jayce, or just about any meta top laner..... He is only good vs specific champs, and that list isn't that big.

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