Why does Rank determine who I can queue WITH but not who Im matched AGAINST?

Shahamut··4 votes·2,542 views

Just a question. Because of the hidden MMR, on a loss streak, I can be vs a silver player in ranked even though I am platnium. I can't queue up with my silver ranked buddies anymore because I have hit plat.

On the other side, as a silver player, I can't queue up with my Plat buddies. But while on a win streak, I may face some plat players in my games, because mmr.

Im honestly just curious, not trying to be hostile or anything. Seriously just a question. It just seems inconsistent is all.

6 Comments

The thigh guy2 votes

Because riot doesn’t know how to balance their game. So they are just spit balling shit honestly.

They just need to remove ranks all together and just use mmr milestones to show your rank.

youthere1 votes

Because Matchmaking and Ranked are garbage.

ShirleyfG1 votes

Yeah silvers can match against plats. I've been playing against plats since i was silver 2, its super weird.

Phieldworker1 votes

It’s because of the mmr. If you watch some streamers do their smurf ones you’ll see they will be gold but going against diamonds. The more wins you get the more the system is going to give you higher LP gains and higher ranked opponents. It’s so that it can get you to the rank you’re supposed to be in.

Mysticman891 votes

For most accounts, rank is usually a pretty good indicator of their mmr (to within a tier or so anyway, which is within queuing restrictions). Queue restrictions are there to make sure roughly equal mmr skill people are playing together, so in normal circumstances allowing a silver to queue with a plat would mean a large mmr gap between you, which is not desirable.

Those on exceptional win/loss streaks might find themselves with an MMR beyond 1 tier of their rank, and hence a silver ranked player might find themselves in a plat game, but they're in a special circumstance where they've proven to the system that they can play at a plat level, so it's not a problem. (Sometimes the other direction happens too, where it's not a silver in a plat game, but rather a particularly poor playing plat player in a silver game, or a mix of those.)

In an ideal world ranked queue restrictions would be purely mmr based so the low ranked smurfs could queue with their high ranked pals of a similar skill (and not play with their similarly low ranked but unskilled pals they may be attempting to boost), but people could manipulate that to figure out what peoples MMRs actually were, and riot would prefer to keep that secret.

Pika Fox1 votes

Because you can see rank, you cant see mmr. It would be asinine to force players to only queue together based off a metric you cannot see.

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