Rumble sitting on a 45.6% winrate with a 1.6% play rate

FortisDominus··12 votes·1,732 views

PLEASE, buff Rumble , even people who main him are winning less then 50% of their games. That 1.6% of people who play him are maining him (for the most part).

Rumble loses every trade and all in at top lane right now because everyone is doing too much damage.

People always say that rumbles ult is game changing, but that is no excuse for a champion to suck so badly in lane. Because if rumble gets his ass kicked in lane his ult will only tickle people.

What made him weak?

  1. he got nerfed a few months back
  2. MR items got buffed
  3. his itemization costs more now
  4. mastery changes

Everything fucked rumble. People say win rate means nothing but:

diamond: 41.8% winrate platinum: 44.6% winrate gold: 44% winrate in all ranked games: 44.9% win rate

In ranked NA he has the 6th lowest win rate ** Winrate may not mean everything, but it does when Rumble is in the top 10 least popular champions in the game**

29 Comments

Abyssphere9 votes

They can buff him when they give him counterplay.

FortisDominus2 votes

He has bad dueling capability late game and he has no escapes or hard CC

NapaIm3 votes

He's a strong lane bully, but champions like Irelia and Trynd who have sustain and all in just mutilate the Yordle.

I don't main top, I just play Rumble if I ever have to go there. He is abusive in lane, but he has windows of counterplay. Most notably, terrible base health regeneration. Fight when his shield goes down, or out sustain him.

Erdamon3 votes

Doesn't he has like plenty of counterplay already? Most of his damage is tied to damaging zones, which can be fairly easily avoided or completely migitated by innate survivabillity/items (Hexdrinker basically makes you immortal in any trade with him), he's really squishy at any point in the game, fights mostly at short ranges and has terrible mobility, making him an easy target for a gank or catching out of position in general, his only means of cc are slows, which means that he can't really stop you from attacking him (until he gets Zhonya's, but even then you can play around that), he requires at least a Liandry's and Hourglass to start being a threat himself, but those items combined + boots is 7500 gold (not counting all the gold spent on potions because of how poor his sustain is, and some occasional pink wards), so if you delay him from getting there he won't be a problem.

I don't see what do you mean.

Verxint3 votes

I honestly have little sympathy for rumbles state. I've never thought he was a well made champion. And his legendary skin is obnoxious

ZzEslIolZQ3 votes

Not Zed don't care - meddler

Its ACU3 votes

He is in a fine place right now... Not being played because champs that counter him are meta right now does not mean he has to be buffed. His kit is a little oppressive, so I could imagine some rebalancing might help alleviate his obvious strengths and weaknesses that make him hard to play and hard to play against. Again, this does not mean he needs a buff. He is very strong with only magic penetration and has a clear weakness(mobility) which can be abused if Rumble makes mistakes. Low winrate does not mean that he is bad, try to keep that in mind when you make posts using this as "evidence." Did this on mobile so sorry for the lack of editing.

aura trifire2 votes

During worlds and before, he was picked in the LCS from time to time.

Some players were known for their rumble play and would have the champ banned from them. After he got nerfed, nobody played him anymore.

He needs some sort of buff... i guess.

Ruin Lance2 votes

i think rumble is really fun but he is not that strong right now and i would love to see him get a buff

The Bíg Ticket2 votes

And no one is sad about that.

Zerolera2 votes

Rumble was about as much fun to play against top lane as a teemo or quinn. I have no qualms about him not being part of the current meta.

Bonipherus1 votes

Didn't the mastery changes help him? Deathfire Touch got other DoT mages nerfed but Rumble got off free. What mastery change hurt him?

FortisDominus1 votes

I know most people hate rumble because and have little sympathy for rumble, but he is my favorite champion. Im just too scared to even go against top lane opponents who i used to go even with. Renekton, tryndamere, jax, irelia all dumpster rumble so hard right now. Irelia was the only lane match up i used to find difficult. personally. There are alot more now.

YumaS2Astral1 votes

I've noticed that ever since Darius got reworked, Rumble is much less popular.

Is Darius really that hard of a counter to Rumble?

FortisDominus1 votes

meh, in season 5 after the darius rework it was hard but not an impossible match up for rumble. Post 6 rumble would find this match up very hard, but pre 6 its possible to kill him

PhantomGG1 votes

if you played rumble you will know once a champion decides its your time to die, you have absolutely no form to run away besides the small speed buff with your shield, which can easily be stopped by some form of cc if they do it in time, the moment Rumble loses the upper hand, unless hes near his turret, he is guarenteed to die. What does darius do once ahead? he literally goes "Your time to die"

MasterSomething1 votes

I can't really use many masteries on Rumble, because they all don't help him that much. Maybe Thunderlord's but what else? Furor would be nice, but only for all ins, and DFT is not really helping him at all. Stormraider's is not good on him because of his burst, and tank masteries don't work on him.

ParaBellam1 votes

His skills are innately strong based on what they do. It's pretty much a numbers game (like Riven)

Except he also has ranged harass, which Riven does not.

I don't consider him to be particularly weak, rather he's just underplayed IMHO.

FortisDominus1 votes

He is underplayed because he is garbage right now. The only people who are playing him are people who main him. At top lane he has harass, but no escape. People who have a hard engage (most every top lane) can just destroy him in his currect state.

And i guess all the stats i gave mean nothing

Erdamon2 votes

Except Riven makes up lack of ranged harass with insane mobility, and instantaneous damage, and lack of actual skillshots, and much better defensive mechanism, and the fact that she can't even really be compared to Rumble since they're two different champions full filing different niches.

Erdamon1 votes

I've got to agree that he's in that somewhat bad spot where he's pretty much only usable in a case when you have a PhD at playing him, and anyone who isn't Marin is strictly forbidden from even clicking on his champion page.

Honestly, after the Juggernaut fiasco blown over, he was still playable and had his niche, which doesn't change the fact that the patch 5.16 was way too big of a hit to him, not only did top lane meta shifted purely towards Rumble counters but also he himself got nerfed quite heavily. Yea sure, he was a highly contested pick in LCS (was, until 5.16 and finals, until then he was barely even considered worth playing), but then, when you see that pretty much every single balance change made to Rumble was influenced by LCS, you've gotta ask yourself a question, who was this champion made for again? Was he like an order given by five people to have some champion that they can occasionally play competetively from time to time but something went wrong in Riot HQ and they accidentally released him onto live servers and ever since tried to keep his pick rate as low as possible?

And then there's this whole circlejerk around Rumble where apperantly he's like the most overpowered champion in the entire game that has also caused the most balance problems and is in general even worse than the meta top dogs of any season no matter what would happen, except that barely anyone even knows how to play him properly and his pick rate (again, aside from LCS) barely ever exceeded 3~4%, even at the time where he had 58,5% win rate back in season 3. And honestly, is he really that problematic? Sure, he's a strong lane bully, has quite high damage numbers and can control fights well, but that's literally all there is, and even his damage is highly conditional since it requires Rumble's enemies to constantly stay within two specified zones (which can be farily easily walked out of), he doesn't really have any mobillity and his only means of defense just outright sucks making punishing his mistakes fairly easy, his short cooldowns combined with heat mechanic do give him upperhand, but then, if you never forced him to overheat (which is one of his major weakpoints) then isn't that a sign of you just playing wrong?

Say what you want, but over the course of seasons 4 and 5, he was actually fairly balanced champion with a well defined role, and being a considerable pick in many teamcomps and the patches through 5.16-5.24 are just a series of unfortunate events that had way too big of an impact. I'm hoping that the upcoming mage patch will actually benefit him more than +30 ap when at full build, as it was with patch 5.13...

Rico Nasty1 votes

He feels shitty to play.. like his kit is just so weird.

PhantomGG1 votes

I agree, yordle is a high skill capped champion who offers little reward even when fed, even the top pro players who idolized this champion have forsakened him, players who have FAMOUS rumbles like Balls, Huni, or Marin, hell huni got FAMOUS souly because of his rumble ults, and after a certain point both the casual players and pro players were like.

"rumble I love you, but baby..this 40 percent win rate just isnt cool"

BUT BACK TO SUBJECT

Rumble doesn't serve as a tank, bruiser, nor carry, is he great mid game and late game? sure, but u gotta survive at leaste to get their, hell i used to love playing rumble but immediatly noticed the nerfs and said "nope, not dealing with it"

Erdamon1 votes

I can see your point, it's not nice to see any champion go through something like this. I'm personally still sticking with Rumble mostly because of sentiment of sort, it's been about three years I've been playing him and it's kinda hard to just drop him like that, hopefully the mage update will give him some relief (not that he needs a rework, he just needs some slight tuning to get back into the game, and some possible item overhaul would be nice too)

Crossette1 votes

Winrates don't mean shit.

It's just the current meta.

Spoofghoul1 votes

Rumble is fine.

But the vision changes did not help him either, he bullies and pushes the lane but is easy peasy to gank. Lack of wards makes his auto pushing easy to abuse

Mecha MaIphite1 votes

fuck that champion, he can stay in the gutter

FortisDominus1 votes

Rumble is obviously not fine right now, but i do agree that the meta shifted to champions who are strong agaisnt rumble

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

i hate playing against rumble. idc about his winrate. but my opinion. hes pain to play against as is. horrible lane bully with his short ass cooldowns. denies you cs hard core.

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