Can we get some Kled nerfs?

Mannny·6/26/2018, 1:40:52 PM·9 votes·3,301 views

IK he isnt necessarily popular but this champ is way too strong. He has not a single bad matchup besides Kayle I hate how he has no bad stage in the game. He's good from early all the way to late.

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Veraska6/26/2018, 2:34:45 PM2 votes

Taric and janna are super annoying as kled also specifically in lane, shen jax and ryze have been annoying for me

Asking for nerfs is the cowards way out

Sensanaty6/26/2018, 5:06:37 PM2 votes

Kled's strong, but he's pretty fair and balanced. You just have to be smart about how you engage against him, and like most resourcless champs, work around his cooldowns.

His W procs on creeps and plus has a really high cooldown early. You have 14 seconds after his W (most Kled's max Q) is procced to trade favorably as the majority of top laners. His Q goes through creeps but it's reasonably slow and pretty easy to dodge unless he's on top of you.

The worst possible time to engage on mini-Kled is when he has W and 2 Q's up, cause his W and Q will give him 90% of his courage and the next AA on a champion will give him Skaarl back. When he's dismounted, it takes an eternity to build up enough courage through minions alone, so just try bait out his Q's by approaching the wave but then backing, since his shotgun cooldown is actually really long.

Most people make the mistake of engaging on him when his W is up, that ability is the majority of his damage output. If you engage on him when his W is down, that's a free trade and usually a free dismount. Disengage when he's dismounted, try bait the Q's out. Now Kled's in a situation where he has to build courage through minion farming (which is really slow), so as soon as he has Q and W he'll try engage on you to remount. When I'm playing Kled and my lane opponent just disengages once I'm dismounted and forces me to miss my Q's, I just back if the wave isn't in my favor.

Shen dunks on him hard though, if you want a particular counterpick.

webstar19956/26/2018, 1:48:40 PM1 votes

Kled is pretty strong yes but I have never had an issue vs Kled when playing Renek or Teemo. I'm pretty sure Garen destroys Kled too.

GayFluffyUnicorn6/26/2018, 5:40:01 PM1 votes

No bad matchups? Jax, fiora, Camille. Just to name three. Aatrox is also hard. Darius is tough. So i already gave you five matchups that are pretty hard for him.

He does kinda well into other matchups that usually stomp melees like jayce but he is far from overpowered or having no bad matchups.

No kled is not good at all stages of the game.

He is pretty shit after 2 items. He just doesnt fall off as hard as other toplaners due to his % HP dmg.

So you can say he is pretty SOLID over the course of the game.

But you need to snowball or you are useless as fuck. He brings nothing to a team.

TheWasatchCrown11/11/2018, 8:04:31 PM1 votes

I love the sad kled players trying to justify a lack of a nerf. Oh i'm sorry one or two champs don't absolutely get stomped by him does that mean they counter him? No there is no counter to his current ratios+kit. Its proven in stats 2018 silver and gold win rate by 50 games played is 59%. A 10 year old could tell the balance team that's more than half. it would be 70% if you didnt have games lost due to other players on the team. This champ is currently as cancer as garen and urgot. He is currently a heavy hitter smurf tumor with 60% + from less than 50 games played in bronze.

I literally just played a game in silver 1 and watched him take what should have been 6 tower shots (actually 3 because some dense yahoo thought making him invulnerable and lose tower aggro when lizard resets was a good idea) while ignited and taking 500 damage from jayce with only ninja tabi just to walk away. His shield is unreasonable and has probably the highest sustainability in the game currently.

I'm sorry but your justification that a few champs played with no mistakes and taking advantage of every opportunity is null and void. The justification that if the rest of team loses you MIGHT lose as kled is just as stupid as it sounds. Bring data to this discussion or don't bother participating.

RIOT PLEASE FIX. Kled Garen Urgot

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Jackàl6/26/2018, 3:16:44 PM1 votes

If your team is behind,you lose. If your team is even,if its past 30 mins,you lose. If your team is ahead,you would win anyway.

Kled loses to Fiora,Ornn,Malphite,Darius,Singed,Camille,Gangplank,Illaoi,Irelia because if he cant get ahead they outscale him.So yeah,hes pretty balanced

Brutalitops016/26/2018, 2:09:09 PM1 votes

Jax wrecks him too. Let him engage on you and then use E + Q to stick to him while his W ticks down. Even if he doesn't hit you, between the dodge and the stun, his W will run out of time before he can hit you any time past the first.

In fact, he's only really good against Kayle if the Kled is garbage. He just all-ins her before she pokes him down and there's nothing she can do once he's on top of her pre-6. Even with ult, Kled shoulda farmed her enough by that point to be tanky enough to just not care, and if he keeps autoing, he'll get Skaarl back even through her ult.