if no one likes assassin/tank/protect the adc/enchanter (then some more other ones i dont know) meta

xDogMeatx··1 votes·2,222 views

What kind of meta is actually healthy??? is there a healthy meta that (almost) everyone is content with?

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thefatlazycat3 votes

honestly with what we know now anything but the burst meta we've been given is favourable

heroikc1 votes

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honestly with what we know now anything but the burst meta we've been given is favourable

I second that.

preternatural3 votes

support centric metas generally feel the best to play, otherwise current meta is the meta solution for satisfying everyone.

honorable mention to inspiration meta.

Its All Skillsss3 votes

When team comp is tanky top laner with nice cc and a tanky jungler that has nice cc and a mid lane thats a mage not an assassin a support that is not land hook an you die aka thresh/blitz and is actually a supporting champion like jana/soraka/nami that doesnt do tons of damage an isnt a huge snowballer.

And team fights is about perfect engages/flanks and combos and peeling for your mage/adc. Honestly the game feels a lot more fun and strategic when assassins are not in them, weither they in the jungle or mid lane or top lane, anytime there is a game without an assassin it feels a lot more fun and less snowballing cancer.

Cind3rkick6 votes

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When team comp is tanky top laner with nice cc and a tanky jungler that has nice cc and a mid lane thats a mage not an assassin a support that is not land hook an you die aka thresh/blitz and is actually a supporting champion like jana/soraka/nami that doesnt do tons of damage an isnt a huge snowballer.

And team fights is about perfect engages/flanks and combos and peeling for your mage/adc. Honestly the game feels a lot more fun and strategic when assassins are not in them, weither they in the jungle or mid lane or top lane, anytime there is a game without an assassin it feels a lot more fun and less snowballing cancer.

But then you have 3 roles basically forced into being their adc/midlaners pet. Top laners being forced into stale lanes with no skill expession beyond last hitting, junglers that cant even defend their own jungle. And supports that are at the mercy of a completely random stranger.

Its All Skillsss1 votes

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But then you have 3 roles basically forced into being their adc/midlaners pet. Top laners being forced into stale lanes with no skill expession beyond last hitting, junglers that cant even defend their own jungle. And supports that are at the mercy of a completely random stranger.

Its a team game get the fuck over it, its ment to be strategy based and have epic team fights were you peel for your carrys, when everyone is the carry the game is stupid. when people are dying 5x times cause of 1 mistake early leading to some bull shit champion snowballing, it ruins the fun of everyone besides Mr. call of duty playing the assassin who is going around 1 shotting everything. notice how every mage has been forced out of mid lane and every support has been forced into mages because they cant even play their lane without being at the mercy of fucking zed/fizz/talon/leblanc/katarina and their duo rengar/kha zix jungler. the game is a utter shit show right now because of assassins and everyone playing only damage.

VanCanBanMan1 votes

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When team comp is tanky top laner with nice cc and a tanky jungler that has nice cc and a mid lane thats a mage not an assassin a support that is not land hook an you die aka thresh/blitz and is actually a supporting champion like jana/soraka/nami that doesnt do tons of damage an isnt a huge snowballer.

And team fights is about perfect engages/flanks and combos and peeling for your mage/adc. Honestly the game feels a lot more fun and strategic when assassins are not in them, weither they in the jungle or mid lane or top lane, anytime there is a game without an assassin it feels a lot more fun and less snowballing cancer.

As a zed main, just make tanks more relevant and front to back teamfighting a better strategy so the assassin will actually have to think about how to use their mobility/pull off good flanks instead of popping the entire team of glass cannons.

R0ses R Red1 votes

without checking your opgg, it's pretty obvious you're an adc main. this would suck for literally everyone except for ADCs. mages would have no one to burst, top would consist of noodle fights, and jungle would just be a third support with the top laner. the only lanes capable of snowballing would be bot and mid. ADCs would literally decide who wins.

The thigh guy2 votes

Tank meta was the best. Because. You could actually do things. Outplays mattered. You didn’t get instantly deleted because some random fuck with a Ludens hit a minion near you.

Keiaga2 votes

no. people will complain about anything.

Kythers1 votes

adc support 3 tanks

goodiesohhi1 votes

No. The boards will always have something to complain about. It's like that one Yasuo quote. It's one of life's certainties.

Syrile1 votes

Team game. Team oriented, tactical play should be rewarded. Not pushing two buttons with a hyper-mobile champion that can 100-0 a team in 0.02 seconds. Hyper carries should require skill to play and should be risky. Assassins should require tactical thought, positioning, flanking, proper use of mobility, etc. Not just having 8888 dashes and insta-kill attacks. "Tanks" should not consist of the one person picked every 12 games or so that manages to take longer than a ward to kill.

So.. Vision meta is not bad. Longer cooldowns on skills, less damage, higher ability to outplay and out think your opponent instead of just blowing up randomly. JG camps actually being worth farming instead of having the JG literally live in mid or top lane for 97% of the game. Put back in real vision options instead of giving more and more ways of getting rid of vision and making the map require more vision while nerfing vision.

Remove the ridiculous like Shojin and stop replacing them with drakes. Fix champions that cannot die, have insane damage, executes, etc. And stop adding in insta-kill attacks to buffs. That is stupid.

First two words say it all though. Make the game a tactical game again. Professional teams should not call League of Legends Tekken. But in reality, that is more what it is now. Twitch-reflexes.

R0ses R Red1 votes

I actually like the current meta. People call it by the general title of "burst meta," and there's a reason it's so general. This meta doesn't belong to ADCs, Assassins(despite what some may people think), Tanks, Mages, or Bruisers specifically. It belongs to any champion capable of bursting, sustaining burst, and/or avoiding burst. The reality is that a large amount of champions fit into this meta AND it does have a larger amount of skill expression than others. ADC metas are little more than peeling for the ADC, tank meta is the most forgiving since dying is nigh impossible if you have a brain cell, and assassin meta leaves little counterplay. You can 100% steer clear of burst if you have hands and position well, and that's a feat of skill.

The only thing this meta lacks is tanks, and that's not caused by the burst but Klepto and Conq. Tanks should theoretically be good in this meta, but they're pounded down too hard during the earlier stages of the game.

Darkdemon6531 votes

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What kind of meta is actually healthy??? is there a healthy meta that (almost) everyone is content with?

One where everything is both viable and counterable

xelaker1 votes

I'm ok with 3/4 of those. Assassins are just laaaaame. Turns into a game of who can suicide dive and maybe get out.

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