Bottom Lane NEEDS Lane Bullies, But Through Supports

Meep Man··13 votes·1,769 views

We need more reliable and viable Support Lane Bullies. Currently, most Supports are just made to make sure their weak early game ADCs never die and not vice versa. We need more super aggro Supports so people think twice about picking the likes of Twitch, Tristana, and other hyper carries. Currently, we don't have many of those that are viable throughout all levels of play.

34 Comments

LadyRenly12 votes

I don't want more Zyra-esque champions bot lane, thanks.

RainXBlade1 votes

No, I don't want to see more bully-like supports at bot. I'd rather play in a passive bot lane than one where I'm in constant fear of being 4-man ganked.

Snowplosion12 votes

It's Zyra not Sona like Karma we Brand have Lux any Bard of Morgana thoseVelkoz.

~~Disclaimer: not all champions are "meta" supports but all have seen play in that role. ~~

Aimléss1 votes

Let's Blitzcrank not Blitzcrank forget Blitzcrank Blitzcrank Blitzcrank Blitzcrank Blitzcrank Blitzcrank Blitzcrank Blitzcrank Blitzcrank Blitzcrank

Snowplosion2 votes

I wouldn't call Blitz a lane bully considering he doesn't really do anything without his Q.

Aimléss1 votes

Then you don't play bot lane enough. Poke isn't the only thing that makes you a lane bully. Try playing a squishy enhancer vs a blitz lane. He ends up completely controlling the lane.

Snowplosion2 votes

I literally main ADC. It is easier to bull Blitz than it is to get bullied by him.

Big Lincoln4 votes

bruisers*

time for the RENEKTON BAR to grace bot lane hehe

Salson1 votes

time for the RENEKTON BAR to grace bot lane hehe

Cull the Meek needs crit scalling.

Ralanr4 votes

Brand and poke supports?

Meep Man1 votes

More like them, but more dedicated to Bottom Lane. Think champions like Leona, Blitzcrank, Nautilus, Zyra, and Brand. Champions that go in for the kill and more support allies by offering more damage and crowd control than shielding, healing, and buffs.

Slythion3 votes

Idk about Naut and Blitz who do support through crowd control so I don't really agree with those examples

But my main question is: How do you balance a "damage" support without traditional support attributes in a way to keep them from moving to a solo lane?

FatedSaviour2 votes

sion support works well, it lets your carry farm via free poke, but i stopped because once i left bronze, everyone stopped getting hit by my Q

50000000000000001 votes

It takes practice to land good fully charged Q as Sion. Some ways to do it include slowing enemies first, hiding in a bush, and using creep block to your advantage (although, this pushes lane so you need to be extra careful). Casting it from a position that makes the enemy hard to avoid is also part of the skill cap.

That said, landing it on mobile champions is near impossible without another CC.

FatedSaviour1 votes

bushes help

Escheton1 votes

It's not about landing a Q, it's about landing 1 and using the threat of another to zone them off creeps by constantly just blatently walking up to them.

Or winding it up knowing fully well they will dash out of it. But given that means that dash is then on cooldown, you control the lane.

I find Sion to be more about forcing behavior than setting things up or peeling. Even if he does that very well.

FatedSaviour1 votes

i became good at timing most adc dashes to use it just before they get out, but i do use it to back them off if they try to farm

Salson1 votes

I like playing Brand...but the Bait keeps complaining....but who cares it's in polish.

SwiftKitten882 votes

umm plz no... i had enough of Zyra in the bot lane..

if you want to be a bully you can do shit like that or take Shaco bot and box every damn thing so they cant leave their turret.

its no fun to play vs. so no.. they don't need bullies.. bullies are bad... just like irl

Variks the Loyal1 votes

Hyper scaling ADCs with Supports that never let them die aren't fun to play against either.

If they coexist to keep each other in check, both become much more interesting and healthy.

Note - doesn't need to be poke Mages like Zyra and Brand. Remember a day when Leona Support would actually rush Sunfire Cape to all in the enemy really early on? That sort of bully would be enough to keep hyper carries in check.

PhearBunny1 votes

Leonas kit fundamentally gets anally abused by hyper carries tho... >_>

Variks the Loyal1 votes

Late game, sure. But hyper carries are weak early on, which is where Leona shines. She's the master of the level 3 all-in.

Playing Leona into a hyper carry would be like picking Pantheon into Nasus; your goal is to snowball laning phase and dominate before the hyper carries reach their power spikes.

Slythion1 votes

Leona + Draven would have a field day against Twitch/KogMaw/Tristana + Soraka or some other flimsy support

It's truly a terrible force to be reckoned with

FatedSaviour1 votes

i remember when i went Sion + a competent Draven and we had a feild day with the damage, but lucian has more mobility with the aggressive supports cuz he can actually keep up, sure draven scales later game which is why you go a more protective and cc lock support with him

Meep Man1 votes

Then just make sure not to complain when either an ADC has to be the lane bully to keep hyper carries in check or hyper carries rule the Bot Meta because of lane bully ADCs not being strong at the moment.

PhearBunny2 votes

Mages are pretty bullyish in the support role.

Zardo2 votes

Anyone is a support if you're brave enough Darius

FatedSaviour2 votes

i challenge you to that, but with Hecarim

FatedSaviour2 votes

Zyra SionLux Brand

AFilthyCaitMain1 votes

Karma

An Undead brat1 votes

No they don't, so let's nerf Zyra so she's not viable mid - oh wait, I forgot...

DunkinNoobs1 votes

There just so happens to be some very potent early game buffs for Leona on the pbe. I'm excited.

Athenes Lulu1 votes

Lulu haha nice joke

i literally make sure the enemy jungler camps my lane tbh

MysteriousBootie1 votes

I think i'm about to be sick

.....LANE BULLIES.....BOTTOM LANE....BLEHHHHHHHHEHEHEHEH

Besides we already have shit like Draven Caitlyn makin it hell

[zombie-nunu-tears]

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