The way kindred is being handled is a great example why the community is so harsh to rioters in post

Shadow Hazard··7 votes·476 views

This is a show most specifically staring wav3break and RiotMadnessHeroo.

When the changes were first announced and the discussion was directly started with the kindred mains it was clear that riot had not been going through the the post since there have been repeated points brought up that discussed fundamental issues. The feast or famine nature of the passive is extremely unfun for however is on the the negative end of the spectrum and there hasn't been really any middle ground since day one of their release. They had an awkward stat binding compared to every other marksman even compared to the other jungle marksman. Early dueling, ganking, and farming capability was subpar if not being among the worse in all three points. Nothing wrong with not being super capable in all three but at least one needs to be a strength for them in the early game.

Lead by wav3break the team decided to power forward not only fixing LITERALLY NOTHING, but actually adding more plus making minor things much more pronounced of the issues with the champ. The passive is still fundamentally feast or famine. The stat binding has been actually made noticeably worse. The early farm, duel and ganking power has also been made worse to varying degrees. Thanks to the addition of the team trying to make them fundamentally more like a standard adc more issues have been added. The base stats for kindred is not only among the worse compared to all junglers, their base stats are among the worse compared to the botlane adc champs, there was even a post with the comparative numbers that was brought up to wav3break in the previous pbe cycle. Adding the execute mechanic although fun idea in a vacuum, was plain stupid to place on the champs only engage CC skill, design wise it is a polar opposite behavior. Despite riots claims the high elo mains/otp's have only been happy when riot announced that something was going to be done about kindred, since then there has been nothing but anger and disappointment at the incompetence and disregard of their much greater experienced opinion on the champ.

The icing of the cake for a flat out wrong post, not taken out of context, not putting words into their mouth, is from RiotMadnessHeroo. "She is one of the absolute most powerful Jungler's in the game late game now". Not only is it flat out wrong, both by a numbers perspective on their damage output, but also on their statistic performance. The jungler who wins out that metric, to the point that they could be compared to a devourer jungler but spiking later, is twitch. Although not a common pic still is a recognized option for a jungler, and has a similar growth and spike pattern as his botlane counterpart. The joke of it all kindred's design insight post twitch was one of the mentioned champs that was thought of when looking to design kindreds strengths and weaknesses and overall jungle performance.

Riot has frankly failed so hard at what was attempted to be done with kindred, going back to the drawing board is a logically sound option that is looking like it is leaning to be the best option of the champ.

In terms of the many negative emotion post towards riot, there are too many that are simply bad. Meddler is the main if not only one who in my opinion is all around the best one in terms of regard and communication with the community. But in the same way that riot has squashed out the capabilities of champs being able to be a one man team in performance other rioters need to properly step up to the level that Meddler shows.

2 Comments

Tobias Brackner3 votes

Did you ignore the part where they explained that they expected new Kindred to be undertuned and want to pay attention to her to carefully move up her power?

WTBoom1 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq__6NhCVL8

She is not that bad dude, but you need to reach snowball state to be succesfull at her, or either finish 3-4 items, maybe she need a minor buff like 5 more movement speed or something like that. But I think she is much better than before, I like the mini-rework.

https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=WTBoom

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