so, riot ignored all feedback that community gave about veigar's nerf

jjookkeerr·Feb 20, 2015·8 votes·460 views

as usual

18 Comments

Leti the YetiFeb 20, 20156 votes

rito can finally fund them east coast servers if they get rid of the pbe :D when did our feed back ever affect pbe changes from fking up live server?

DrCyanideFeb 20, 20151 votes

Supposedly, with Lee Sin it did once.

SmokingPuffinFeb 20, 20151 votes

Most recently, Riven bug.

PBE is not really for balance testing. The level of play isn't high enough and the matchmaking is kind of terrible.

PBE is for finding bugs and broken things. As a secondary goal, PBE is also useful for getting feedback on possible new mechanics, skins, and game features.

Sir YamazukiFeb 20, 20154 votes

Yeah, I remember how the last few champion changes were all nerfs too like the community said, oh wait...

The community is heavily biased and claims every change Riot makes is going to "gut" their main, why would they listen to everything the community says? The game would have far more balance issues if they did listen.

Solidair3Feb 20, 20152 votes

But they didn't???????

They said they would lower the delay on his E if they needed to. They literally said they are open to changing him some more if he doesn't perform well.

We need to actually play him, man. It's up to us to show Riot if a rework DIDN'T work. then riot will make changes. the BE just isn't a big enough environment for them to make big big changes based on that data alone.

MathbalnaseFeb 20, 20153 votes

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But they didn't???????

They said they would lower the delay on his E if they needed to. They literally said they are open to changing him some more if he doesn't perform well.

In other words, they will, potentially, listen to future feedback.

We need to actually play him, man. It's up to us to show Riot if a rework DIDN'T work. then riot will make changes. the BE just isn't a big enough environment for them to make big big changes based on that data alone.

Why bother soliciting feedback at all (which the PBE inherently does) if you're going to dismiss it out of hand for being 'too small of a sample'?

Solidair3Feb 20, 20152 votes

Future feedback is better than nothing at all.

And I won't disagree that the small sample of the PBE isn't a great excuse, but it's what we get. That's reality, man.

MathbalnaseFeb 20, 20152 votes

possibly listening to future feedback is not not ignoring current feedback

unless your claim is that, in the absence of this current feedback, that future feedback would be ignored, there is no discernible distinction between what tyhey are doing and 'ignoring feedback'.