so they are buffing zed on pbe, is the balancing team doing drugs or something?

jjookkeerr·Aug 4, 2015·91 votes·3,838 views

zed buffs + armor nerf???????????????? why armor is getting nerfed anyway?

55 Comments

MintChipHomieLixAug 4, 201533 votes

Armor is getting nerfed because Riot thinks tanks are boring I guess. Nobody wants to watch two giant tanks hit eachother with wet noodles for damage. Personally I feel that tanks fall off a lot more often than they should. Your drug idea is probably correct or at least makes the most sense for what they have down lately lol.

gubigubiAug 5, 20154 votes

Lee sin buffs Zed buffs

2 minor champ reworks one patch 1 medium/large champion rework the next patch followed by 4 medium reworks the patch after that

Pretty crazy group of patches right before playoffs and worlds. Although I'm not sure what patch they will be using for playoffs.

LoL aint lifeAug 4, 201532 votes

One reason:

#WORLDS

SaltyToplaneGoatAug 4, 201522 votes

Ya can't have esports without flashy LCS champs I guess.

LeeSin Zed

Although I think we have seen enough of them by now. Seeing the same shit over and over again doesn't make it better...

gubigubiAug 5, 20151 votes

Did lee sin or zed even see play at worlds in 2014?

AbyssphereAug 5, 20151 votes

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Did lee sin or zed even see play at worlds in 2014?

Lee Sin was picked - he was never not in the top 3 of the jungle during 2014. Not so sure about Zed, but then people are acting as if Lissandra was a popular pick at world's last year too when she'd never been competitively viable before spring 2015.

KeevalroyAug 4, 201518 votes

They stopped doing lines in the office during the Cinderhulk meta. How else would you explain the happy players and mostly viable champion roster? Anyone remember how happy people as a whole were a few months ago? Then they started doping again, and every time someone took a hit, they hit tanks. Now they're back on the same crack they were on before. For god's sake Tryndamere hire a new balance team. Enough is enough.

Yxgl222HaXAug 6, 20151 votes

Not really the cinderhulk meta was boring as fk for anyone who plays mid or adc. All you do is farm all game then watch your tanks fight eachother for 3 minutes then try and pick up what evers left.. OR just get caught by a tank- get cc'd to high hell with no chance of fighting back. Now tanks will actually have to focus on peeling instead of doing what ever they want, sounds horrible right?

KeevalroyAug 6, 20152 votes

When tanks are dying in 2 seconds at a full build now? Yeah that's pretty horrible.

Trash ADC BtwAug 6, 20151 votes

Rammus I melt in 3.5 seconds, not 2, thank you very much.

PandemoniumHeartAug 4, 201510 votes

RIP Tanks

League of Bruisers 2.0 incoming

gaby1bestAug 5, 20151 votes

What? That new item? Well I know I'll be playing my Volibear a long time from now, dealing damage on my autos based on my max HP. Not like I already have my W.

Earl EulrichAug 5, 20152 votes

just that bruisers have similar problems...they will just die during a little cc because there´s nothing making them survive adc-dmg lomng enough anymore. It´ll be back to S3 assassins vs adcs (featuring some wardbots aswell).

LarasoAug 5, 20159 votes

They're trying to make Mordekaiser replace ADCs. They plan to do this by nerfing his base stats, lowering his range and MS, and forcing him to be next to his babysitter to use his abilities.

I know for certain they're on some kind of drugs, but whatever it is it's definitely a harder drug than anything I've ever heard of before.

Jungle Lux GodAug 5, 20159 votes

The Zed changes aren't going to do anything anyways.

He got the delay at 1 second and people said they didn't do anything.

Armor items are definitely going to help Zed though.

SaiannaAug 6, 20151 votes

wasn't his delay lowered to 0,5s? That's kinda like nothing...

Jungle Lux GodAug 6, 20151 votes

A 1 second delay didn't do anything.

A .5 second delay isn't doing anything either.

ElJanitorFrankAug 5, 20157 votes

OH MY GOD ZED IS GETTING A .5 SECOND RETURN TO SHADOW BUFF ON HIS ULT, HE'S GONNA DOMINATE EVERY SINGLE LANE IN EVERY GAME NOW.

FadedpfAug 4, 20156 votes

I want to know what they are smoking with the Armor nerfs and the INSANE Lee sin ult buff.

R110Aug 6, 20151 votes

That is not an insane Lee Sin buff. For that buff to matter at all, you need to hit a tank with it and hit that guy into other people. It isn't going to make his Insec move nor early game any stronger.

Trash ADC BtwAug 6, 20151 votes

But in the late game, assuming a tank's built a moderate amount of HP, he's going to be doing an extra 550 damage on his ult to anyone the tank hits.

ModAcademy KaynAug 5, 20156 votes

Its .5 less of a second? Is it really that big of a buff?

LuggAug 5, 20154 votes

That's a 50% reduction, so yeah, it's a sizeable buff. .75 would have been better. That way you still have reaction time for those with low ping.

Silents429Aug 5, 20151 votes

Or it can stay .5, the point of it was so he was at risk after ulting which still exists.

KingopantsAug 6, 20153 votes

Actually it's a large buff. Having .5s vs 1s to retaliate against someone (being able to land skillshots and cc) and know reliably he wont suddenly dodge without flash is actually a lot. Especially when you take into account 60 ms ping and 200 ms second human reaction time.

People in this thread are both vastly overestimating the buff and also vastly underestimating the buff.

TrídentAug 5, 20155 votes

rito r u ok

Trash ADC BtwAug 6, 20151 votes

Rammus Read it in his voice.

AutoreactiveCD4Aug 5, 20154 votes

Lee is getting a buff, and damage buff too. Then what they did with skarner and morde...Most of these PBE changes make me think Riot is on drugs tbh.

Karn BishopAug 5, 20153 votes

I ban zed anyways, i don't enjoy him spamming 3 shadow dashes to escape to his tower after he dived ours n took a kill.

kile147Aug 5, 20152 votes

What buff is Zed getting?

NineTailedMysticAug 5, 20156 votes

Ult return is .5 seconds instead of the 1 full second.

Chicken4dinnerAug 5, 20156 votes

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Ult return is .5 seconds instead of the 1 full second.

woop dee doo

BlackMagicWilsonAug 5, 20155 votes

Exactly what I thought. This whole thread is just an anti-riot circle jerk.

Chicken4dinnerAug 6, 20151 votes

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Exactly what I thought. This whole thread is just an anti-riot circle jerk.

I see it so many times it almost get's boring to visit the NA boards

kile147Aug 6, 20152 votes

I don't like Zed but that's not a gamebreaking buff, that's a partial revert to the very stupid nerf that they gave him. His ult is like the most well designed part of his kit. Maybe if this breaks him (which I doubt it will) they will finally nerf something about his laning phase.

Lucian Shot 2pacAug 5, 20152 votes

Typical Riot. Ok. One reason for all of these changes. They want flashy plays for worlds which = more money. They're looking for an AD/AP assassin meta while indirectly buffing adc's by destroying armor. Hence the buffing of the most flashy/outplay type champion. Such as lee sin and zed buffs.

KilljoyXAug 5, 20152 votes

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zed buffs + armor nerf???????????????? why armor is getting nerfed anyway?

Simple. This is the patch worlds will be on. Assassins have to be good because league of tanks is simply unacceptable for worlds.

ShénzhìAug 5, 20152 votes

And this is how eSports is rigged, i suppose

gaby1bestAug 5, 20151 votes

Earlier this day(or yesterday) I was talking about how people on boards are resonable and intelligent, unlike the most majority of the league players. I read this thread, then I read the comments. I'm taking back all I've said.

Solidair3Aug 5, 20151 votes

Lucian also weirdly got a buff, and I feel like he doesn't especially need it.

Chicken4dinnerAug 5, 20151 votes

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Lucian also weirdly got a buff, and I feel like he doesn't especially need it.

Super mana hungry lane bully

YOLO420SWAGSCOPEAug 5, 20151 votes

1 Sec CD to switch shadow to > 0.5 Sec CD to switch

PREPARE FOR THE #LCSBIGPLAYS BOIS

HYPE

Solidair3Aug 5, 20151 votes

armor is getting nerfed because it's too cost effective when compared with MR, which is too expensive. So they're evening things out to "level the playing field"

As for Zed buffs, I can't fathom why they think he needs any. Worlds is on its way, I guess.

Trash ADC BtwAug 6, 20151 votes

The problem with this is that they're also gutting a good majority of all the mid/endgame armor items in the game.

SwapShadowsAug 5, 20151 votes

If you had an understanding on game balance you would realize that armor is the most cheapest/cost efficient item choice in the game.

That is mainly why all AD teams fail so hard, because everyone can get 200+ armor in a matter of 4-5k gold

KingopantsAug 6, 20152 votes

Why would you even have an all AD team in a game with two damage types and two defense types. Secondly why would you want a counterplay mechanic (itemizing against your enemy teams main damage) to not be effective.