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1/9 darius who does shit all game gets the villain mark

Critmaster Garen·Apr 17, 2018·3 votes·1,057 views

meanwhile the 5/0 enemy carry whos wrecking my team.

can you just put some work into this fucking thing after 3 years?

im sick of watching the mark landing on the enemy support, because he accidentally got a kill.

im sick of the mark landing on an enemy who has been entirely irrelevant to the entire game, just because he happened to get a single kill in a skirmish by random happenstance.

im done asking nicely. you nerfed garens silence by a full second, nerfed his base ms and his movement speed buff to give him this gimmick. can you after 3 seasons finally put some fucking work into it to make sure that it does what its supposed to?

and someone needs to sit down and fix his goddamn bugs. there is no reason decisive strike keeps randomly targeting lane minions next to the champion you were trying to fight, for a whole year. and there is no reason ending his spin still cancels his movement commands. this bug has been reported month ago.

can you just do your fucking job? i tried engaging you guys in a civilised discussion for month and dont get any feedback. ive seen multiple threads per week of people who tried to do the same. my patience is at an end.

16 Comments

Big LincolnApr 17, 20182 votes

garing is beginner chomp so we can't change him

Critmaster GarenApr 17, 20181 votes

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garing is beginner chomp so we can't change him

including fixing his bugs and cleaning up his mechanics apparantly.

greekvandaLApr 17, 20182 votes

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including fixing his bugs and cleaning up his mechanics apparantly.

nahh we can't have him worked on. he gonna stomp silver elegiggleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

webstar1108Apr 17, 20182 votes

He seems ok to me. I am level 6 mastery with him. The only thing wrong is the "villain" tag messing up sometimes.

Critmaster GarenApr 17, 20181 votes

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He seems ok to me. I am level 6 mastery with him. The only thing wrong is the "villain" tag messing up sometimes.

you can reproduce this bug easily in a practise game. just send him down the lane, activate the spin.

whenever you cancel it, or it runs out, it cancels his current movement command. as for the decisive strike bug, i dont know how to reproduce it, but ive seen it happen to other people on stream and in videos aswell. sometimes if you engage with decisive strike on an enemy champion, he will just randomly turn and hit a minion next to the champion instead of the target you klicked on.

webstar1108Apr 17, 20182 votes

Hmmmm never happened to me. Maybe because i attack move and right click a lot so the delay is so minimal that i do not notice?

Critmaster GarenApr 17, 20181 votes

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Hmmmm never happened to me. Maybe because i attack move and right click a lot so the delay is so minimal that i do not notice?

~~by the way, nice path finding.~~

never mind, in this case it was a charm. but shit like this happened on occation aswell.

Critmaster GarenApr 17, 20181 votes

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Hmmmm never happened to me. Maybe because i attack move and right click a lot so the delay is so minimal that i do not notice?

i dont know what causes it. i just noticed the q go off on minions, even though i didnt even click on them. shit like that can lose you fights and ultimately the game.

webstar1108Apr 17, 20181 votes

Turn auto attack of maybe that's it

Critmaster GarenApr 17, 20181 votes

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Turn auto attack of maybe that's it

nope, thats not it. i always have it turned off. i just double checked aswell. it also doesnt explain why it only happens occationally.

if the problem was that auto attack was turned on, it would happen every time you press q and move near a minion.

webstar1108Apr 17, 20181 votes

Well submit this to Bugs not GenDis

Critmaster GarenApr 17, 20181 votes

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Well submit this to Bugs not GenDis

these bugs have been submitted month ago. i can do it again, but ive seen these threads multiple times.

Critmaster GarenApr 17, 20183 votes

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He seems ok to me. I am level 6 mastery with him. The only thing wrong is the "villain" tag messing up sometimes.

i found something. watch this at 1/4 speed.

https://youtu.be/Mu1-WmZipfU?t=5m

it happens at exact 5:04. if you really slow down the video, his last command is a movement command very close to camilles character model. the cursor doesnt turn into a red sword, so its not an attack command. its not an attack move either, as you cant see the cursor turning into a crosshair.

you clearly see the arrows of the movement command on the ground.

garen randomly turns and auto attacks a minion. i bet this is the same bug that randomly causes decisive strike to go off on a nearby minion, since its technically also an auto attack. so its probably the same behaviour that randomly causes the champion to turn and hit a minion with the q.

like this shit has been happening for ages. but since there is probably not a single person on the live balance team who even plays the champion occationally, they didnt realize it. you can tell them and apparantly they still dont give a shit.

Sire HippingtonApr 17, 20182 votes

Rather than bugfixing his villain mechanic(certainly still need bugfixes on the other parts of his kit), how about we just remove that horrible mechanic? It doesn't fit garren, it feels bad to use often enough because it's on the wrong target, and it feels utterly HORRIBLE to play against as a melee. If you play a tank, getting a random kill somewhere on the map can loose you the game, as it can cause you to be marked as Villain and because of that loosing the next teamfight around baron becuase 1/3 of you're hp gets nuked in truedamage(actually happened to me) It's a mechanic that punishes players for doing what should be right, and it doesn't really add anything meaningfull to the game.

Witht he stupid Villain mechanic removed, we could put back some more power into his Q and W.

webstar1108Apr 17, 20181 votes

Maybe play Darius instead of Garen. Garen is trash vs good players.

Critmaster GarenApr 17, 20182 votes

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Maybe play Darius instead of Garen. Garen is trash vs good players.

how is that an excuse for leaving him in a state of half broken mechanics and bugs? how is ignoring the champion supposed to change anything about that state?

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