Until you fix the lopsided stat balance of AP and AD.
AP can only be designed in a way which produces burst damage, but AD can function in both ways.
Even when you look at champions like Azir, Teemo, Kayle, Malzahar, exc. Remove the burst damage in their kit, you've removed their viability as a champion, due to being outclassed by literally every mage, assassin, or marksmen in their prospective roles.
Mordepool1 votesShit. He's got a point
Ralanr1 votesMaybe that's why they are making adaptive helm. To balance them around champions building it.
deadlychuck1 votesThen wouldn't that imply that they'd introduced some new stat in the MYMU, where consistent damage AP champions were in tended to be targeted?
Ralanr1 votesBy that logic, shouldn't they have made Omen take 20% crit reduction during the marksmen update?
They didn't and are doing it now.
deadlychuck1 votes... no.
Idk if you used logic there, but it's a stat bought by mage. Therefore it'd be in their respective update. Then the counter stat to it (if needed) might be introduced in the tank update or something.
If they were going to introduce a new stat for mages, they would've done it when they were updating the class it's intended to be used by, not some other random class.
Now, i'd be fine if they did actually make adjustments to the counter stats for the stats in the updated classes, but that's not how they've done it yet.
Crit got emphasized in the marksmen update, Spell vamp was removed in the MYMU, Lethality was introduced in the assassin update, and tanks are now getting better access to crit reduction and spell resistance.
Also, interesting note, while adaptive helm does have MR on it, based on the description it would reduce damge from all spells no matter the damage type (maybe excluding true damage).
Mataka Tek1 votesGenerally speaking, AP Mages can only survive in this game if they had some kind of QWE "CC" associated with their kit.
AP Mages without that kind of CC cannot keep with other AD champs once their Itemization includes Critical Hits.
Since there is no such thing as a Critical Magical Hit, there is no way to get Double Damage Auto Attacks that do Ultimate Level Damage in 1 hit... several times a second.
So, AP mages cannot scale compared to the AD champs that get crits.
deadlychuck1 votesI mean that's kinda my point. The way that the starts are designed limits the design space, because there aren't enough multiplicative scaling stats for AP to exclusively utilize.
AD can use CDR, atk spd, lifesteal, crit, and armor pen. AP only has CDR and magic pen.
So while an AP champion might have some kind of mechanics in their kit which allow them to CC a target, they will never be able to out preform an AD champion in the same role, because the breadth of scaling stats AD has is larger, with AP mechanics being a subset of the AD mechanics. But AD has an equal depth in all of the roles as AP.
AP champions of a specified design are pretty much on par, in terms of scaling, to their AD counterparts as a result of the implicit auto attack scaling with AD.
This could be solved by either giving AP champions some kind of Magical Crit stat, but then that would basically homogenize the two stats even more than they already are. "which do you prefer, orange damage or purple damage?" kappa
The better alternative would be to add in some type of multiplicative scaling AP stat which allows AP champions the accessibility to equally scaling builds. Though in the MYMU they literally did the opposite of this by removing spell vamp, reducing the number of multiplicative AP stats to 2 from 3. Where AD, having been given better access to CDR over the past few years, is sitting at 4.
In fact, it'd be a lot of data mining, but I'd bet that the rise of AD's dominance in the game, corresponds with their access to a 4th multiplicative stat in the form of CDR itemization options.
Fed by Snu Snu1 votesLikewise, you can't have an AD burst champion who doesn't resort to split pushing when things don't go their way.
deadlychuck1 votesRight....
I'm sure these guys, just to name the ones off the top of my head, are just all anomalies. No, the point is, that AD can function as a viable ability scaling stat (which is the source of burst damage), but AP can't act as a viable sustained damage stat.