Idea for anti shield items:

Dasdi96··3 votes·386 views

Right now shield spam is still broken, especially when used on a hypercarry making them unkillable while they destroy your entire team. New item: Anti protection edge item 3134 + item 1038 + 700 = 3100 gold 70 AD 18 Lethality Unique passive: shield bypass: 50% of your damage done ignores shields on the target. New item: Anti protection staff item 1058 + item 3108 + 1050 = 3200 gold 120 AP 10% cdr Unique passive: shield bypass: 50% of your damage done ignores shields on the target.

11 Comments

AirKingNeo4 votes

JUST FUCKING NERF SHEILDS INSTEAD

Ornochestror2 votes

There's no reason to add an item, which allows bonus damage against shields... This would work like really heavy armor pen/magic pen, but only against champions, who specialize on shielding, like Janna, Karma etc. Shielding is not even an unhealthy stat, it requires good timing to reach it's full potential and even has the penalty of expiring, unlike heals. Even if the effect on these two items would be weaker, I don't see a reason why there should be an item, which allows any champ who builds damage, to avoid counterplay even more. Do you want to give any champ, who already builds lots of damage the ability to gain even more damage and make champs with shields totally useless? If there are shields that are simply too strong they should be nerfed. By the way, the stat combination of these items is uninteresting and generally too strong. This effect would work better on an item with lower cost and more diverse stats.

Ben SwoIo1 votes

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There's no reason to add an item, which allows bonus damage against shields... This would work like really heavy armor pen/magic pen, but only against champions, who specialize on shielding, like Janna, Karma etc. Shielding is not even an unhealthy stat, it requires good timing to reach it's full potential and even has the penalty of expiring, unlike heals. Even if the effect on these two items would be weaker, I don't see a reason why there should be an item, which allows any champ who builds damage, to avoid counterplay even more. Do you want to give any champ, who already builds lots of damage the ability to gain even more damage and make champs with shields totally useless? If there are shields that are simply too strong they should be nerfed. By the way, the stat combination of these items is uninteresting and generally too strong. This effect would work better on an item with lower cost and more diverse stats.

You don't need good timing or full potential to be effective with shields. Not hard to use, don't play it up.

Tahminatrix 2 votes

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You don't need good timing or full potential to be effective with shields. Not hard to use, don't play it up.

item 3190 2.5 second uptime that decays constantly meaning if someone hits it 1 second late thats almost half the shield gone already anyway.

Ben SwoIo1 votes

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item 3190 2.5 second uptime that decays constantly meaning if someone hits it 1 second late thats almost half the shield gone already anyway.

It's seriously not that hard. I don't know if you guys are ADC / support mains that will defend shielding to the very end, but it's really not hard to time or use. Why try to play it up as some difficult to time #biglcsplay active? It's usage is easy and it's really really effective.

Tahminatrix 2 votes

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It's seriously not that hard. I don't know if you guys are ADC / support mains that will defend shielding to the very end, but it's really not hard to time or use. Why try to play it up as some difficult to time #biglcsplay active? It's usage is easy and it's really really effective.

So you can easily activate item 3193 and item 3190 before Annie summoner 4 ults your team?

Ben SwoIo1 votes

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So you can easily activate item 3193 and item 3190 before Annie summoner 4 ults your team?

That's purely situational. You can bring up hundreds of different situations where something would / wouldn't work. The fact still remains that activating a shield isn't that difficult to use or time. I seriously don't understand why anyone is trying to hype it up as being so.

Dasdi962 votes

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There's no reason to add an item, which allows bonus damage against shields... This would work like really heavy armor pen/magic pen, but only against champions, who specialize on shielding, like Janna, Karma etc. Shielding is not even an unhealthy stat, it requires good timing to reach it's full potential and even has the penalty of expiring, unlike heals. Even if the effect on these two items would be weaker, I don't see a reason why there should be an item, which allows any champ who builds damage, to avoid counterplay even more. Do you want to give any champ, who already builds lots of damage the ability to gain even more damage and make champs with shields totally useless? If there are shields that are simply too strong they should be nerfed. By the way, the stat combination of these items is uninteresting and generally too strong. This effect would work better on an item with lower cost and more diverse stats.

You don't need timing when shields have 80+% uptime.

Dead flag blues2 votes

Would fuck up people who are self-shield reliant Diana Nautilus Ryze Azir Skarner (who is this champion) Yasuo

Tahminatrix 1 votes

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Would fuck up people who are self-shield reliant Diana Nautilus Ryze Azir Skarner (who is this champion) Yasuo

TahmKench TahmKench TahmKench TahmKench TahmKench Kled Shenshen isnt self shield reliant but thats his r that requires your teammate to be low for it to work, if enemy still does 50% dmg whoever you try to save is dead

We dont need items that nerf the shields we need items that nerf cooldowns, it would wreck ad and ap spam casters along with spam shielders and healers provided that you use this item on them or you do something for it to proc on them.

Tahminatrix 1 votes

This would make TahmKench useless, hes supposed to be a tank but his e is the only thing making him tanky, he has very situational hard cc that is single target and requires other players to ignore him so stunning most of the damage dealers with an outplay/skillshot in order to tank/survive is not an option for him.

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