Current Nauilus Shield changes are actually a nerf early game when you consider runes and masteries.

Duke Anax··2 votes·1,099 views

At first glance the change seems like a slight buff, because it scales now with total health, the shield at level 1 is 105 and get's stronger with levels, without buying items.

However, runes and masteries are counted as bonus, so live Nautilus can get 29 extra shield from them, while the new shield would get only 15.

So A Nautilus that is build that way (which one would be not?) actually looses 10 shield at level 1.

It get's even worse if you up rank the shield: At level 3, shield rank 2 it goes from 179 to 157 (21 lost) At level 5, shield rank 3 it goes from 229 to 202 (25 lost)

At level 3, shield rank 1 it goes from 129 to 129 (0 change) At level 5, shield rank 1 it goes from 129 to 135 (6 gained) If you don't rank the shield though, it gets better from here.

But if you do rank shield or buy any health items it's worse until you reach level 10, shield rank 4.

If you slightly raised his low rank scaling to 10/12/13/15/17 % max health instead. It would at least keep his early shield the same.

11 Comments

Angry Monster6 votes

what shit runes are you using?

Duke Anax1 votes

first, no need to get toxic,

second, health runes can be usefull on a tank, especially when he has health scaling.

Angry Monster4 votes

That is not toxic, it was a question.

And health runes in the jungle is a bad idea. Your running naut in a sub optimal in setup. Without AR your shield is dropping to fast anyways.

Try running the numbers with a better build setup.

Killstrado3 votes

I haven't heard of anyone running health runes ever, and they a far to useless on nautilus. Maybe I'm not reading your post right but I also don't understand what you mean by losing shield value when leveling up or ranking up the shield

Duke Anax1 votes

I need to crunch the numbers for that again, but there is a point, where HP raises your effective health by a larger amount than AR would reduce the damage.

By shield value lost I mean that rank shield on PBE compared to the same rank shield on Live.

Killstrado2 votes

Ok that clears things up a bit, I would assume then building your Jungle item with juggernaut would be the solution to this, and seems like it'd make his early game healthier, what are you building when playing nautilus and getting the shield problems

Duke Anax1 votes

actuallyas that's the point, when you build juggernaut on live now, you get a better shield than you'd get after the update

killd0zer3 votes

idk man, running health runes in the jungle is pretty toxic

Duke Anax1 votes

Who said anything about jungle?

killd0zer3 votes

The fact you said "Nautilus"

He's pretty weak in every other lane unless you're playing against bads.

Sohleks2 votes

Scaling health runes in the jungle was sometimes a thing... in the old jungle, with meta champs with better clear. Yeah... safe to say naut a good idea on Naut in the current jungle.

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