can some rioter comment on the state of garen?

Critmaster Garen··3 votes·637 views

hes been dropping in strength on a patch by patch basis for a while. while his armor shred buff offset this trend for a whole patch cycle, ultimately it added nothing new or interesting to his kit (after a item 3071 buy at the very least) and he kept falling into this cliff.

since 7.9 hit hes sporting a 44% winrate and officially went from "probably not a great pick" to crap territory.

can we finally talk about some serious work on his kit, including some form of in combat sustain that allows him not to get shit on by opponents who are behind in gold and items, because they bought some form of lifesteal?

maybe even go as far and rework his villain mechanic to be able to chose his own target like Kindred

i know it would be a large leap, but the way it looks he needs something large.

i could work with his weak early game as it is now, if it would actually be rewarded with an approptiately strong lategame similar to Nasus Darius

most top laners not only beat him early, but outscale him mid to lategame. this really shouldnt be a thing.

Riven used to be garens most favourable matchup and were at a point, where the matchup is literally in her favour now.

6 Comments

DunkinNoobs2 votes

Judgement should apply Grievous Wounds so people can't just facetank him with lifesteal. That would be a good start.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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Judgement should apply Grievous Wounds so people can't just facetank him with lifesteal. That would be a good start.

it would have been so much better than armor shred. i understand why the armor shred is there. but its really not helping a lot and makes almost no difference with cleaver available to him.

SUPERMOVA1 votes

riot think some shitty rework of w is going to change anything lmao its a good joke better buff perfectly viable high elo champs but keep garen in gutter

i dont give a fuck if silver players cant deal with garen if they severly buff him its not my problem its a skill issue not a champion issue lmao them being shit at game should not affect champion balance

Milla Jovovich1 votes

Riot Mudrensen here: Garen is a meme champion at this point.Go play something that requires more than one hand.

Big Lincoln1 votes

make his Q a long range jump but slow like Illaoi's W and give him back his 3 second silence

then he can be viable again

Paquay1 votes

Current state of Garen: still spinning.

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