is grasp worth it on irelia/jax anymore?

fervor is just too strong to not take it on them

Only if you build them full tank.

Otherwise, no.

anyone who can benefit from going 18 points in the 1st mastery tree should , its majority damage, so champs like should take advantage of everything in that tree and the fact they can stack the passive on fervor so fast it is better then grasp ,

grasp was never worth it on either

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No, and I dare say it never really was lol.

Go fervor of battle.