@Meddler, is the Swain nerf targetted towards his synergy with Deathfire Touch?

Lao Fu the Tiger··4 votes·860 views

Just looking for context. As a Swain Train main, I am sad and personally think this is a bit much, but I do definitely know his DoT combined with the Deathfire Touch mastery does make him quite strong right now. Just curious.

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Tobsters1 votes

Well deathfire is probably strong on Swain but that's never a reason to give him such a big nerf.

Having GW on every attack and removing mana pots actually hurt him...

ViashinoWizard1 votes

Swain never needed mana pots.

Lowel1 votes

Actually yes he needed some depending of the matchup ( a goood pusher/wave clear and swain needed to use his abilities to last hit under tower)

He cant wave clear with his ultimate withtout going OOM after one or two wave. Even with his passive.

Lowel1 votes

W is not even a DoT and changing the snare duration doesn't change anything at all with DFT.

Useless nerf with the current problem(which is DFT on DoT abilities and bot Swain snare...).

Lao Fu the Tiger1 votes

His W isn't, but it allows him to guarantee a good chunk of time for his Q to be on the enemy, since otherwise they'll walk out of its range.

I'm assuming this is to let them have less DoT by being able to move away faster.

Lowel1 votes

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His W isn't, but it allows him to guarantee a good chunk of time for his Q to be on the enemy, since otherwise they'll walk out of its range.

I'm assuming this is to let them have less DoT by being able to move away faster.

Yeah W help him use his abilities properly. But was never a problem before. The problem is EQ+DTF. The problem is DFT witg DoT abilities.

Take morgana Q +W. 3sec snare. Whould we nerf this too?

Just fix DFT....

Cloak an Dagger1 votes

This nerf was completely unwarranted. I would love to hear the reason for this nerf so I can downvote it. I don't even play Swain. Even if he is "sleeper op" Why the hell would you nerf his skill-shot based root which has a delay before it even activates? As a low mobility champion this is literally his only tool to land any of his abilities in a combo.

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