am i the only one who thinks chogath needs nerfs?

Goodest Gamer·Jun 14, 2015·7 votes·683 views

he is so damn strong in lane. he goes full tank with 1 ap item and can do insane damage. his ulti is beyond stupid. hey ur winning a trade vs me? lemme just do 900 damage before i die.

12 Comments

LuggJun 14, 20154 votes

Cho is pretty much the definition of broken right now. You can't make a champ that is that tanky do that much damage, have that much CC, and have an insane true damage ult. It doesn't matter at all that he isn't mobile, he will eventually get in position to wipe you.

Woook3rJun 14, 20153 votes

No. There are a lot of champs that need nerfs and dont get attention here on the boards. There are a lot of tanky mages that do too much dmg. Malzahar is one.

I think wukong needs nerfs now. I got flamed earlier today for saying so tho.

Goodest GamerJun 14, 20151 votes

i guess..

LuggJun 14, 20151 votes

Wukong and Malz both need nerfs for sure. They have both been VERY strong for a very long time. Wukong has a great winning percentage top, jungle, and even mid. Malz needs a damage nerf to his Q. Why would you give an ability that has silence such a ridiculous amount of damage. Cho'Gath has the exact same problem.

Woook3rJun 15, 20151 votes

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Wukong and Malz both need nerfs for sure. They have both been VERY strong for a very long time. Wukong has a great winning percentage top, jungle, and even mid. Malz needs a damage nerf to his Q. Why would you give an ability that has silence such a ridiculous amount of damage. Cho'Gath has the exact same problem.

The single best buy for cho is ryalais. Silence plus slow plus dmg. Nom.

Drunk RummateJun 14, 20153 votes

Press R for 1000+ damage that can't be mitigated by armor or magic resist.

"Balanced"

Press W and silence multiple people for 2.5 seconds.

"Balanced"

But hey, at least your W doesn't have a higher AP ratio than any spell Ahri has. (Jk, it does)

Sona PingJun 14, 20151 votes

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Press R for 1000+ damage that can't be mitigated by armor or magic resist.

"Balanced"

Press W and silence multiple people for 2.5 seconds.

"Balanced"

But hey, at least your W doesn't have a higher AP ratio than any spell Ahri has. (Jk, it does)

"Complains about champions and how they need nerfs while getting things that are, quite literally, spelled out for him (in the tooltip) wrong."

G&B in a nutshell, Ladies and Gents.

PK ArcfireJun 14, 20152 votes

Gentleman Chogath has only one word for you.

"SILENCE!"

ProfDrDeathJun 14, 20152 votes

Does he straight-out need nerfs? Possibly not.

Could he use an actualization of his mechanics? Probably.

For me, that would include:

Lowering his passive's sustain by some 25-33%, but doubling it against large monsters and minions and champions.
Raising his base AS from 0.625 to 0.638 or 0.644.
Updating Feral Scream's indicator to show the actual AoE, and check for targets at the moment the cone appears
Lowering Rupture's ratio by 0.2 and Feral Scream's by 0.1.
Add sweet-spot mechanic to Rupture which deals 25% more damage for hitting it dead-center.

Less sustain for just last-hitting, but more for targeted last-hitting and jungling. A touch more AS for better sustained damage for jungling and non-burst-based duels. Less "WTF-how-did-that-still-hit-him". And making the AP ratio modern.

Davy CrockettJun 14, 20151 votes

I love the AS suggestion and all of the other ideas

arcinexJun 14, 20152 votes

His lane sustain needs a nerf.

Davy CrockettJun 14, 20151 votes

Just a bit of clarification and to check your numbers.... in lane, Chogath's ultimate does about 325 true damage. It only does 1k+(1.0 AP) true damage to minions. Once Cho hits lvl 16, if he built an ROA, the damage dealt by his ulti is about 700 damage. Just saying. Know your champ, and if youre less than 1/2 health, recall if cho has flash and health because he can Q+R combo you for a tasty snack. Just like playing against Zed, if you have no resistance, you better recall if below 1/2 health or be ready to kill him. Just a few tips, and yes, Cho is considered a lane bully, and in order for him to be tanky, he also needs armor and MR.