Why is it taking so long to fix AP itemization?

Yenn·Sep 29, 2017·4 votes·313 views

Is it really that hard to add intermediate items to all of the shitty build paths (aka almost every AP item's build path), so AP carries can actually get some benefit towards what they're building without investing the entire gold cost?

As it stands, I have to flip a coin and choose between Hourglass/Veil and Liandry's. If I choose Hourglass/Veil and the enemy's bruisers get big, I'm totally fucked, because I now need to invest the full cost of Liandry's before I get any anti-tank utility. If I choose Liandry's and the enemy's assassins get big, I'm totally fucked, because I need to invest the full cost of Hourglass/Veil before I get any anti-assassin utility.

Most games don't last long enough to get both. If there were middle ground items, you could at least partially adapt to the state of the game before it's over.

This is nonsense and should have already been fixed.

7 Comments

Vanic998Sep 29, 20171 votes

Do you think it's a good idea if Liandrys loses the health but gains 20 ap?

YennSep 29, 20171 votes

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Do you think it's a good idea if Liandrys loses the health but gains 20 ap?

It doesn't matter, Liandry's is fine but requires you to sink too much gold to get the anti-tank effect

NotCounterSep 29, 20171 votes

I think they are going in the right direction by adding items like lost chapter and bramble vest, strong and light powerspikes. and yes AP itemization isn't in a great spot in particular. like you said there needs to be greater build paths (cough cough zhonyas) and i think the core stats of the items could use some changing. zhonyas, banshess, rylais all got hit by hard nerfs because of them not differentiating damage/defense well enough and all feel shit nowadays

KhristophorosSep 29, 20171 votes

Liandry's is rarely worth it on Vel'Koz considering you can increase your true damage with raw AP now. You'd need to be against a team with like 3 hardcore health stacking champs.

YennSep 29, 20171 votes

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Liandry's is rarely worth it on Vel'Koz considering you can increase your true damage with raw AP now. You'd need to be against a team with like 3 hardcore health stacking champs.

Deathcap is inefficient as a second item and has a terrible build path.

Games rarely get to three items, and by that I mean the winner is already obvious before you hit three items, and the winning team needs to make a massive mistake to throw.

Also, teams with 2x champions sitting on 3k+ health are common, but they generally don't build any MR (or Visage at most).

KhristophorosSep 29, 20171 votes

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