Who should I get?

Paladin 0f Life··3 votes·699 views

I'm a jung main and I want a more auto based champ to learn adc with. I'm thinking Quinn or Vayne?

17 Comments

Pika3102 votes

Don't bother with Quinn, you'll just end up with a lot of disappointment. There's a reason I had to stop playing her after the ahem "rework."

If you want a good starter ADC: Ashe, Cait and Trist are probably the easiest to learn. Trist and Cait are both very forgiving for making mistakes as they have solid escape mechanics and CC. Admittedly though, the changes to Cait's passive have increased her difficulty a notch and Trist's E passive makes farming difficult and takes practice getting used to. Every champ has their issues, but these 3 are probably the most simplistic for beginners.

Saltinc2 votes

I would recommend Lucian. I saw that you wanted someone more auto based, but Lucian can be the champ you desire. He has good burst and low mana costs (unless you spam his abilities). Plus his passive is centered around his AA after using abilities. He is relatively safe, strong against most picks, and he can be positioned very easily in skirmishes. I'd say give him a try on free week before you buy him though.

Paladin 0f Life1 votes

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I would recommend Lucian. I saw that you wanted someone more auto based, but Lucian can be the champ you desire. He has good burst and low mana costs (unless you spam his abilities). Plus his passive is centered around his AA after using abilities. He is relatively safe, strong against most picks, and he can be positioned very easily in skirmishes. I'd say give him a try on free week before you buy him though.

Awesome thank you. I haven't given Lucian much thought

Saltinc1 votes

Not a problem. I enjoy him thoroughly :)

Francisco Pires1 votes

If you wan't to learn adc, try caitlyn. She has her Q and ult, but most of her dmg still comes from autos.

VictoryDance961 votes

Graves jungle is probably the most viable marksman in the jungle. Also, Twitch has the best ganks (Twisted Fate has good ganks too, and YES his cards scale better with AD!!!). Quinn is good for roaming (providing vision). Anyone else is just not that great, and this includes:

Teemo, Vayne, Caitlyn, Corki...etc... JHIN!

Hmm, Ashe might be right in between these two groups...

Nahui1 votes

Don't suggest TF and Teemo. He wants a basic ADC, not an off meta niche pick that technically works.

Miror B1 votes

I'd personally reccomend graves. Although he may not be a "traditional" adc (like blue build ez, and urgot), his versatility and raw damage make him rather easy to master as you can not only get pretty quick kills but also play him in a multitude of positions (unlike many of the other ones).

Weathered1 votes

Kindred You can use them in both jungle and bot lane.

Paladin 0f Life1 votes

I have graves buy I want more consistent dmg off of autos not burst reliant and mana hungry. Graves top is great but I suck jung with him haven't figured his jung build yet.

Paladin 0f Life1 votes

I have trist, ashe ,ez and graves. Tris isn't very relevant till late game and her jump is target able which gets me killed often. Ez has no wave clear and is easily punished. Ashe is not mobile at all but is probably my best adc at the moment. But her early power got shafted with the new Q . And graves gets poked down and kited very easily. Maybe I want something that isn't available but I just want something that fits my playstyle. I want a decent laning phase with good late game.. low elo. I honestly don't like Catlin solely do to the traps. I know I'm picky but I I kinda want Vayne or Quinn so mobility, peel (cc) and kiting isn't an issue. Mechanically they aren't as challenging as EZ who you have to hit Q every second.

Pika3102 votes

Problem with Quinn is that she isn't good and she isn't an ADC. She was mediocre as a Top/Mid champ before the 5.22 nerfs and now they've only made her worse. She doesn't even have an ult anymore, just a mount that costs mana and isn't available til level 6.

You'll be hard-pressed to find an ADC that has a strong early game, late game, mobility and CC all in one. Cait and Kalista are probably the only two that fit all of these criteria. Vayne lacks early power, but you can give her a go if you want. Keep in mind she takes longer to master than most ADCs, I almost never see people playing her correctly. If you're interested, Lucian is arguably the strongest ADC atm although he lacks CC and his short 500 range takes just a bit of getting used to.

VęX1 votes

Been enjoying quinn top. I feel she's is more effective to than adc. I think she is a very viable top.

Masala Chai2 votes

Passive Cooldown then: 8 seconds Passive Cooldown now: 8.000 - 2.928 (BASED ON CRITICAL CHANCE) Passive Damage then: 25 - 215 (+0.5 bonus attack damage) Passive Damage now: 15 - 100 (+ 16% - 50% AD)

Q pre-rework: 70/110/150/190/230 (+65% bonus AD) (+50% AP) provides Teemo blind Q now: 20 / 45 / 70 / 95 / 120 (+ 80 / 90 / 100 / 110 / 120% AD) (+ 50% AP) now provides near- sight, and also gives a free passive proc.

W then: 20/30/40/50/60 flat movement speed W now: 20/25/30/35/40 percent movement speed

R cost then: 100 mana at all ranks R cost now: 100/50/0 mana

R cooldown then: 140/110/80 seconds R cooldown now: effectively 0

R duration then: 20 seconds R duration now: Infinite, unless damage is taken from turrets or champions

R damage then: 100/150/200 (+ 0.5 bonus Attack Damage) R damage now: 1.0 Total AD

R gets you into lane faster, and makes roams a lot more effective for solo lane Quinn. I don't see much nerf except to her early game, but her late game was MASSIVELY buffed.

Paladin 0f Life1 votes

Sorry I don't get much ip cuz I can only play 1-5 games a week so it's a big deal when I get a champ

ABlueQuaker1 votes

Kindred/Quinn/Ezreal/Graves can all Jungle if you want a Champion you can play in either role.

Start (and Smite) Krugs and you can kite with the stun.

Paladin 0f Life1 votes

Carried the mess out of my last game as ftp Quinn gonna get her soon. Thank you all for your suggestions they really helped. Quinn just fits my play-style the best

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