Can I have some context on the Nocturne buffs?

Akali is SO HOT·Aug 25, 2016·8 votes·549 views

2.5 seconds at max rank is kinda ridiculous. Having a spell that keeps a target feared for that long is very unhealthy. You nerfed fiddlesticks for that exact reason. Now fiddlesticks has a fear that is point and click instant while Nocturne's is attached to a tether with a delay, but he still has plenty of tools to keep the tether from breaking. I don't really think he even needs a buff right now. If you really do want to buff him, then making his fear that long is not the way to go.

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Voluug13Aug 26, 20164 votes

Noc doesnt level up his E until lategame, only sometimes in second place.

The buff is strong, yes, but its a lategame one that Noc needed (he falls off like bricks if he doesnt get fed).

This is different that, say, a Morgana Q buff because Morgana can, will and currently does level up Q first. Noc cant, wont and never will level up his E first.

Akali is SO HOTAug 26, 20163 votes

Even still. An extra 0.5 seconds at rank one is still pretty big and once he gets max rank, even if he doesn't get it until later in the game, being feared for 2.5 seconds won't really be fun for anyone.

WoonStruckAug 26, 20161 votes

An extra .5 seconds on his fear late game will mean very little when you or Nocturne are dead after it goes off even now.

It makes the skill actually have a pay-out for that 2 second near-melee tether.

What a horrible thing for Riot to do! /s

AhristocatsAug 26, 20162 votes

Simple. Most of the time what happens if his fears triggers? nothing.

literally nothing, most of the time he jumps on you if he fears you nothing happens, you take some damage but that's all, because it's a fear that increases your ms by 30% and makes you walk away from him.

that being said 2 things: -2.5 sec seems a lot, i think 2.25 would be better -nocturne will still have a problem which is the mana cost on spells, this makes him a lot weaker than a lot of champs like him.

DunkinNoobsAug 26, 20162 votes

It's not the 2.5 seconds at max rank that you should be worried about. 1.5 seconds at rank 1, on the other hand...

Akali is SO HOTAug 26, 20163 votes

Yeah it's a huge buff early and late game

WoonStruckAug 26, 20161 votes

They nerfed Fiddle because its a point-and-click instant ranged fear...not because it was too long in general. The basis of what the skill is is exactly why its duration was nerfed.

Having a 2 second fear for a 2 second tether on a near-melee ranged skill is pretty weak when you consider how easy to access (ranged/instant, usually both) other hard CCs in the game are, most of which are 1.25 seconds or longer and aren't putting you at risk to use.

WolfChasesAug 26, 20161 votes

I don't think it's a big deal since Nocturne maxes it last and it's delayed. By the time Nocturne's fears you he's most likely dead by your teammates, other than that, if he catches you solo he should be able to kill you but so does any diver in game.

He needed a buff because he's utter garbage late game uness hes extremelly fed.