You know who would be the ideal candidate for a small scope gameplay update?

SaltyToplaneGoat··10 votes·553 views

Karthus.

No seriously, I'm not joking here. I remember the times before he got his VU, and now he looks slightly better, but sadly his gameplay has not improved a bit since then, if anything Riot decided to nerf his W, the only utility he had, into the dumpster and indirectly nerfed his ult by releasing more and more champions that could either make themselves invulnerable, or make the team invulnerable (f.ex.: Bard, Kindred, Taric), or introduced an item with an on-demand spellshield active.

He has no real burst and no cc either, which is usually what allowed mages to compete with assassins. A Zed can be 20/0, he still is in some big trouble when he gets hit by a Morgana Q, Lux Q, Veigar cage or a Brand stun. Also this cc allows mages to be still semi relevant even if they are horribly behind, as a well placed stun can turn a fight or make a good pick.

But Karthus can't do that, as he consists of mostly damage and is maybe a living slow zone when you buy a item 3116 - which is a shame because his theme had so much more potential.

He definetly needs something, and yet his kit is completly lacking of anything worth keeping in its current iteration. Sure the ultimate should still be this gigantic "deals damage to everyone" thing, but even this could be done better.

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It Hertz When IP2 votes

OPINION TIME: I think his ult needs to change or be removed. Yeah, it's his signature ability, and I certainly wish it could stay in game, but it takes up so much of his power budget, his remaining abilities have to be somewhat lackluster.

If you could add just ONE element of counterplay/skill requirement, the rest of his kit could get amped up. Make the ult only target someone he's damaged recently, make it only target enemies at low health, make it only target enemies in a directional cone, give it a range limit, reveal Karthus to the enemy team while he's channeling.... do SOMETHING with it.

SaltyToplaneGoat2 votes

I think it could go like this: the ult is now a nova-explosion that radiates from Karthus, reach and possibly even damage is depending on how long he channel. Increase the maximum channel time to five or six seconds. The wave is actually multi-layered. You know how a spellshield only blocks one ball of a syndra ult? Kinda for that. Also, it is too fat to flash or blink over it.

I mean, how awesome would that be when you channel for five or six seconds (possibly even after you died) and then unleash this HELL of an ability?

Karthus archetype is that of an arch-mage. Slow but HEAVY spells are what flies with him. Now make the rest of his kit have something to do with the undead or life-force in general, and you got a fine champion.

An idea to replace his E with: Karthus channels for 2 or 3 seconds and then slams his staff to the ground, causing a shockwave to push back all enemies and slow them. Best going with him getting his book and recitcing some preacher-like voiceline. This is his "fuck off so I can channel my ult/other skills" kinda thing

Also I recommend scrapping his W completly. Spooky walls are Thresh's thing tbh.

It Hertz When IP1 votes

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Slow but HEAVY spells are what flies with him.

His Q says otherwise. ^-^ Other than that, I agree with you. Nice ult idea btw!

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

No one plays him for his Q tho...

xWaters2 votes

Why does a guy who doesn't even play karthus suggest a mini rework for him?

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

I mean I'd love to play him and occasionally picked him but... you can't really win with it sadly and I'm mostly playing ranked so...

abca982 votes

I would like his e to tick as Singed's Q.

Poske1 votes

There is not much they can change about karthus

Q has low cooldown to prevent him from building cdr W is useless to prevent Cdr to be gold efficient on him E literaly doesnt care about cdr

Yet his ultimate is so good with CDR

If you are going full mana regen karthus yes....... you ll be useless

But if you are going Nomicon>rabadon whatever your abilities ll cut

Now regardless locket redemption and other items

Karthus ultimate is extremly unhealthy

Every time i play him it single handledly does 45% of someone health

Personaly i think karthus is fine champion Power wise. Completly viable

As for fun wise.. Yeah no

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