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This Meta Isn't Fun (Previously and Inexplicably Deleted By Moderators)

Troy242621·10/1/2017, 5:36:28 PM·100 votes·4,510 views

Previous Thread https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/NdWEK0An-this-meta-isnt-fun

Reason For Deletion Apparently didn't defend my position, so here it is again, highlighting my justification that I already posted; because guess what, the meta is still not fun.

Quote From Previous Thread

Assassins are pretty underpowered, tanks and Ardent supports are extremely prevalent, and the ADC roster is largely homogenized because late game ADCs benefit the most from supports abusing Ardent

Catch-up experience is still an abysmal game mechanic and drives the skill floor of my main role (jungle) down.

75 Comments

Khristophoros10/1/2017, 7:43:04 PM52 votes

Mods should not delete threads on the basis that they disagree with it or personally feel that it was not well argued. As a forum moderator you don't have any authority on argument style or quality. It's disappointing to see this happening.

I suggest locking a thread if there is a reason to (eg. it has devolved into flame wars), and state the reason. That way the thread and the reason can be there for the sake of accountability. This is a pretty common practice in forum moderation for good reason.

EDIT: This post kinda blew up more than I'm comfortable with given that more information has come out. Please read the following posts for additional context, thanks.

Deep Terror Nami on this suggestion: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/JF9JZ43L-suggestion-for-boards-a-graveyard-section-for-deleted-threads?comment=0001

Teridax68 on the OP's original thread: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/FqRklcXq-this-meta-isnt-fun-previously-and-inexplicably-deleted-by-moderators?comment=0003000200010000

ModWulf Helhammer10/1/2017, 6:37:19 PM15 votes

Assassins are not inherently underpowered right now (well, most of them).

They are currently weak in this meta because of the prevalence of both hypertanks and peel supports, which are two strong classes right now. You tone down hypertanks, you stop needing hyper-dps champs to take them down. You stop need hypercarries, you have less of a reason to take peel supports to protect those hypercarries at all costs.

Once you have that under control, assassins and fighters will shift back up in power, which moves engage and ultility to other classes (like support and certain ADCs)

BALDG1VEN BOOMER10/1/2017, 5:49:07 PM12 votes

Well how constructive is a post that just says "At all"?

Almighty10/1/2017, 10:40:05 PM11 votes

Meanwhile the "Janna XX% win rate" one line posts make it to the top every time.

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Marshbouy10/1/2017, 5:43:39 PM9 votes

Previously and Inexplicably Deleted By Moderators

not inexplicably. I'm so glad they're deleting useless posts that have little to no meaning behind them. This one should not be deleted as you have stated your reasoning as to why.

PePsiLemoNN10/1/2017, 8:10:06 PM8 votes

''I made a thread with literally 2 words in it , basically farming upvotes , obviously no reason for it to get deleted''

Laughing Fish10/2/2017, 11:59:54 PM7 votes

As this has been a point of concern in the comments, and is mentioned in the original post, I will answer it here:

I am the Warden who deleted his original post. His original thread was not the same as this thread. In his original post, he just had "This Meta Isn't Fun" as the title, and "at all" was the only thing in the post's body. This doesn't count as a complete argument, and doesn't contain enough content to host a discussion. All threads must contain something to substantiate their argument. It doesn't have to be a good argument, it doesn't have to be something we or anyone else agrees with. But it must contain something to actually add value to the discussion and give commenters something to comment on.

His reposted version does this by pointing out key things he dislikes about the meta, adding something to back up his claim that it isn't fun. For this reason, the original post was removed, and this one was not.

Teridax6810/1/2017, 10:07:06 PM6 votes

I agree, this meta isn't my favorite either. The meta has always revolved around the marksman being the VIP on each team, which I'm not the biggest fan of, but in recent times I feel this has been ramped up to such an obnoxious degree that it often feels like I have no real agency over the game unless I'm laning bot. Additionally, in spite of catch-up experience in the jungle, games often feel so snowbally, due to leads quickly turning into huge power differences, that fights often don't even feel fun, as many of them boil down to raw statistical power rather than meaningful plays. This is made worse by the accelerated pace of fights, where even tanks often don't last more than a few seconds. As much as I like quicker matches, I think accelerating the game's pace requires deeper changes than what's currently been done, as simply making everything go faster has also jacked up the snowball factor way too hard.

Evil Yasuo10/2/2017, 8:31:34 AM2 votes

I wish I could thumbs this up a million times.

Pale Pirate10/2/2017, 11:49:37 AM2 votes

Wardens should calm down a bit. They are too swift to prevent commenting and now delete threads.