Oh boy another eventful and fun game in top lane

General Esdeath ·Mar 8, 2018·2 votes·475 views

Nothing better than being double your enemies farm then dying because bot lane roamed up here xDDD

Nothing better than winning lane but you lost game because mid and bot fed xDDD

Nothing better than being ganked from the tri-bush on red side because you can't get 2 wards by level 3 xDDD

Nothing better than getting outdamaged and outscaled by a tank xDDD

Nothing better than 5 enemies roaming together and you can't do jack because top laners tend to need the most gold/farm out of all roles!

I got outfuckingplayed

Fuck this lane

17 Comments

KennysDreamGirlMar 8, 20184 votes

"Nothing better than winning lane but you lost game because mid and bot fed xDDD" if two other lanes fed then yeah you kinda lost that one, has nothing to do with top lane.

"Nothing better than being double your enemies farm then dying because bot lane roamed up here xDDD" this one is your fault here. why are you trying to 2v1, you probably weren't even playing a champ that can 2v1.

"Nothing better than being ganked from the tri-bush on red side because you can't get 2 wards by level 3 xDDD" just play safer lol. if you know jgs can gank super early then why dont you adapt to that and play safer. but..but..they will lvl 3 dive me just leave the lane if you see the jungler comeing to try and dive you, even then it wont work unless they have lots off cc that they hit you with or both enemies have a high amount of burst.

"Nothing better than 5 enemies roaming together and you can't do jack" like my other point, why are you alone when they are together? if your team isn't coming then just leave. "because top laners tend to need the most gold/farm out of all roles!" all lanes need gold and farm, not just top.

"I got outfuckingplayed" you didn't get outplayed, you just dont know how to play the game

General Esdeath Mar 8, 20181 votes

So my lane doesn't matter? Cool!
Who said I tried to 2v1? I can run all I want but that support is gonna CC me and kill me
So I lose exp, gold, and then a tower because towers are paper thin :thinking:
Who said I'm alone? I said "top laners tend to need the most gold/farm out of all roles" meaning I can't sit there and take a whole wave because my whole team is competing for that wave.

KennysDreamGirlMar 8, 20184 votes

1: i didn't say your lane doesnt matter. take any lane and if they do well but two others feed they'll be in the same situation. top isn't any more special or different from this.

2: you said "Nothing better than being double your enemies farm then dying because bot lane roamed up here xDDD" how else would you die other than trying to 2v1? cc? well just walk away, if you place wards like your supposed too then you just walk away and you wont b ccd.

3: its better than giving free kills so yeah "thinking"

4:that was an assumption because you didn't mention your team at all. like i said before top laners dont only need the gold and farm. if its a 5v5 at the tower why are you expecting to get most of the farm and gold? if nothing is happening then just go split and tell them to just wave clear.

honestly this whole things comes down to you not knowing how to play safe

EXE FallenKnightMar 8, 20184 votes

WAIT WAIT WAIT....... you are playing Akali/Ryze/GP/Ornn and you are complaining about being useless????????????????

I thought you were like most top laners and were playing tanks that would get dumpstered by the enemy bot because you couldnt get tanky enough. You legit have no reason to complain when you are playing hypercarry champions like GP/Ryze that CAN 1v9 solo carry. GP is STILL one of the highest scaling champions in the game, and Ryze isnt terribly far behind him both outscale 6 item tanks at like 4 items lol.

Good luck in your future games, but I highly suggest you start focusing your criticism inward and watching your replays so you can improve before you start blaming your teams and the game.

JackMcSnipeyzMar 8, 20183 votes

TL;DR: i didnt play well and lost

Literaly every one of thos scenerios has nothing wrong with it and nothing exclusive to toplane.

If your bot roamed top you're 3v1 or 2v1 at the very least, extra 80 minions wont do jack shit.

2 other lanes feeding? Yea that sucks but what do you want? A free handout because you farmed well?

Enemy jungler ganking you, you can buy pink it's really cheap and pretty much gurantee to stop/spot the ungler at least once. If you die level 3 you didnt pay attentio to timer, junglers usually roam top around 2:40, if you dont have a ward dont push like you're some god and then complain when you're out of position.

5 enemies roaming AS A TEAM? in MY team game? Pfff try hards, fuck them right? You should totally be able to hold the gates 1v5 with your farm.__

General Esdeath Mar 8, 20181 votes

Yeah you got me, I just played bad all those games where I was ahead in lane but bot lost so I lost =/ you're too smart for me

JackMcSnipeyzMar 8, 20182 votes

IDK what games you're talking about, only 1 of your last recent games as top you had a somewhat good score and even then you had negetive KDA. None of you recent games had CS worth bragging about, definetly not "double your enemy laner". Seems like you are thinking you're some sort of a big shot when in reality you are average and need to improve, and blaming everything like "OMG TOPLANE IS USELESS" when you go 0-3-0 as GP or 0-3-0 Ryze in 15 minutes. I dont know why you are so certien you play perfectly and stomp your lane, none of your games show anything exceptional, and while yes, im not saying EVERY game is in your control and is your fault for the lost, you are FAR from being ahed in lanes and winning them.

Also in your last 4 games, the only real tank you played against was ornn, the rest were bruisers, and akali.

Improve yourself, then complain about how the game is screwing you over

EDIT: scratch that , even your "decent" game where you went 10-12 your enemy olaf went 22-2, but i guess he didnt really carry, i mean he was TOP, how can he carry from TOP?

General Esdeath Mar 8, 20181 votes

Except you're looking at normals where I goof around with friends :thinking:

Look at ranked and oh...what's this? Games where I do decent in lane but the enemy team is too far ahead for me?!?

JackMcSnipeyzMar 8, 20182 votes

Want to review your solo games? Alright. Last 3 games you got stomped playing adc i guess you tried those ez right clickers eh? Either way 100% lose rate botlane.

Your toplane games you lost: 2 riven games where you at BEST broke even with your enemy, your scores were 5-5 and 4-4 you were not "crushing" your opponent but lost because you had 0 impact, you had 0 impact because you chose a lane bully and barely broke even, if you takre an early game champ and do "decent" (argueable) you lost lane, this was always true even way back when we had the "renekton bar" toplane meta.

2 more games as GP with you went 1-8-2 and 2-7-1. Complete stomp, you were feeding hard, and your enemy laner was way ahed of you none of those game you can blame on your team you played bad and lost lane, you dont even have assist on GP with GLOBAL ULT. Once again you had 0 impact because you took a late game champ and couldnt even play safe and fed hard in lane.

Now on the flip side, you won 2 games, both you actually had a great score, one with darius 6-2 and one with GP 13-5. Almost like YOU HAD IMPACT when you won lane and didnt expect to get carried because "LOL TOP 0 IMPACT XD".

If anything your match history proves against your points, the game you lost, you were ALWAYS part of the blame, the games you won - you had an active part and played a role in your team's victory. Almost like toplane has an impact or something ;thinking;

General Esdeath Mar 9, 20181 votes

Gladly willing to try another lane (adc usually is my least played so I gotta go for it), even if I lose.

PopcornBunniMar 8, 20183 votes

Oh boy another eventful and fun game in bottom lane

Nothing better than being double your enemies farm then dying because mid lane roamed down here xDDD

Nothing better than winning lane but you lost game because mid and top fed xDDD

Nothing better than being ganked from the tri-bush on red side because you can't get 4 wards by level 3 xDDD

Nothing better than getting outdamaged and outscaled by a support xDDD

Nothing better than 5 enemies roaming together and you can't do jack because bot laners tend to need the most team support out of all roles!

I got outfuckingplayed

Fuck this lane

General Esdeath Mar 8, 20181 votes

and then you right click to victory after farming for 20 minutes

nice meme

EXE FallenKnightMar 8, 20182 votes

Im relatively new to top lane and I agree with bean. You are just not using your head all the way in most of those cases. Really the serious issue with top is the power balance between some champs. Especially if one of the more powerful ones happens to get a kill or forces you to back at a bad time with no TP. Turns small mistakes into snowballing cs and xp leads for the bully champ.

I understand for health and balance in top lane there need to be strong champs and weak champs, there need to be early champs and late champs. Bullies just get out of hand some times.

General Esdeath Mar 8, 20181 votes

Believe me, even the pro players hate this lane. Dyrus doesn't like how it is, Adrian doesn't like how it is, SRO doesn't seem to like it, I'd mention Hash but I don't think he likes anything.

EXE FallenKnightMar 8, 20181 votes

It sounds like you need to focus on using your advantages you earn yourself on affecting the map. Each champion can do that in their own way. Fiora/Camille/Kled: Swap side lanes repeatedly until you can 1v3 and take towers, or use flanking teleports to instagib enemy carries in the back line Cho/Mao/Naut: roam and be a beefy frontline that locks down enemy carries for your team to kill with ease.

There will always be games where your team gets behind and then there is nothing you can do, that isnt top lane exclusive (cant tell you how many times Im 4/0 as an adc and the 3 item fiora shows up at some point and 2 shots me because our jungler didnt help top keep her from farming)

The biggest issue I have with your post is the fact that you are trying to cast off the responsibility of not being able to respond/adapt to how the game is going. If your bot is 0/6 and they lose tower you need to KNOW that the enemy bot lane is going to swap to take top tower, you need to put advanced and deep wards down to prevent that lvl 3 gank by researching and understanding common jungle paths (if you get killed by a cheese path then that is unfortunate and shouldnt happen very often)

If you are CRUSHING lane, either take towers to give your team global gold, or roam to affect the map and get kills/objectives. Or even translate your lane pressure into pressure on the enemy jungler by invading for wards or to take a camp or two to set them behind in xp and gold.

Just because they are pro doesnt mean that they are automatically correct. Dyrus has disliked top for several seasons now, he explained initially because it was changing from a hard fought 1v1 centered mechanics based role to a more team oriented survive for the good of the team role.

A lot of old school top laners are pretty fed up with top because every season League becomes more and more team reliant. There are less 1v9 solo carry chances and top laners who used to just be their own island (almost playing their own mini game seperate from the rest of the game) are now more and more required to take part in, and be at the mercy of their team.

Im by no means perfect. Nor do I feel like top lane (or league in general) is in a perfect spot at the moment but I dont think any of the points you brought up are even remotely close to the actual issue.

SilentBomberMar 8, 20181 votes

In my 40 last games as a top laner,enemy's jungle would literally stay 3 minutes in bushes waiting for me to try and farm while my jungle would afk farm until level 6 and refuse to help,not only my perma pushed lane but also other lanes.

in my last game i needed 2 AA to take down top inhibitor when 2 enemies were dead.My team preferred to siege bot 3rd tower instead of an easier top inhi.After that my adc flamed me for trolling.

Every game i see the same absurd thing.Adc's ego kicking in and flaming the top laner because he refuses to be adc's dog.Even in simple decisions like taking down a lonely inhibitor,Top lane has to be flamed because he refused to abandon one more chance to win the game.Btw in that game ofc we lost because Adc preferred to type more than try to win.

Those who downvoted that guy are either adc,jungle,mid laners or they just do not care.This is the state of game now.Discrimination to top lane.

EXE FallenKnightMar 8, 20181 votes

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In my 40 last games as a top laner,enemy's jungle would literally stay 3 minutes in bushes waiting for me to try and farm while my jungle would afk farm until level 6 and refuse to help,not only my perma pushed lane but also other lanes.

in my last game i needed 2 AA to take down top inhibitor when 2 enemies were dead.My team preferred to siege bot 3rd tower instead of an easier top inhi.After that my adc flamed me for trolling.

Every game i see the same absurd thing.Adc's ego kicking in and flaming the top laner because he refuses to be adc's dog.Even in simple decisions like taking down a lonely inhibitor,Top lane has to be flamed because he refused to abandon one more chance to win the game.Btw in that game ofc we lost because Adc preferred to type more than try to win.

Those who downvoted that guy are either adc,jungle,mid laners or they just do not care.This is the state of game now.Discrimination to top lane.

seriously? lol