Can we just rip the Band-Aid off Shen already?

Lux Tizer··5 votes·588 views

I'm tired of my favorite champion being in this state of Purgatory over his ult, right now it's the only reason he's a competitive pick and he's pretty ineffective in any matches outside pro. Just nerf his ult and put some power back in the rest of his kit so people outside of the professional tier can use him again.

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KasonaADC5 votes

Played shen. Went 3/0 vs jarvan top lane.

Then the same jarvan came back to lane, missed half his abilities at level 6, and killed me with half his health left because I did zero damage and my ult is useless by myself.

Honestly my least favorite champion in the game.

Eedat3 votes

No he didn't.

First, AD Jarvan is extremely item reliant for his damage. He's not going have those items if he's 0/3. Second, like most burst champions, he struggles against tanks. There is absolutely no way he bursted a 3/0 tank to death while being massively behind. Third, most of Jarvan's damage is in his abilities which you claim he missed. The rest of his damage would be from autos which Shen counters.

Blatant lie is blatant

KasonaADC1 votes

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No he didn't.

First, AD Jarvan is extremely item reliant for his damage. He's not going have those items if he's 0/3. Second, like most burst champions, he struggles against tanks. There is absolutely no way he bursted a 3/0 tank to death while being massively behind. Third, most of Jarvan's damage is in his abilities which you claim he missed. The rest of his damage would be from autos which Shen counters.

Blatant lie is blatant

I think you misunderstood and that's probably my fault. First, I made some mistakes myself. I was building tri force, and planning to build tank later. We were pretty even on CS, so he wasn't massively behind, but a good 900 or so. We were level 5 when he came back to lane and he started poking me with q, so I was actually ~200 hp below full hp. Might have been more or less, idk. He went in at level 6 when I was, and we both went all-in. He missed his e-q, hit his ult, then hit a q. so 2/4 abilites counts as missing half. As to how he outdamaged me so much, I have no idea. Pretty fuzzy on it. So it's within the realm of possibility.

Hexs Fortune2 votes

I get the feeling alot of shen mains would rather drop the "save a friend ult" and embrace the badass of a dual wielding ninja

Death by Glamour2 votes

They went the same route of balance as they did with old kassadin, nerf absolutely everything except the ult.

WalkingInACircle1 votes

I don't have these problems as Shen in lane myself. Just trade with your w and escape with your e. Don't use e aggressively unless you're very confident. You can q farm under tower very easily. Later when you finish sunfire and Titanic you do plenty of damage.

Marshbouy1 votes

I think riot's fear with this is turning shen into "generic top lane tanky bruiser with a gimmick ult that comes up once every 4 minutes"

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