This season's starting to feel like a No Man's Sky level bait-and-switch

Lux Tizer·11/29/2018, 8:01:56 AM·155 votes·21,972 views

Want a longer laning phase? 3 minutes added to laning with sacks of gold added to tower damage

Want less snowballing? First tower now worth 1100 gold

Want less damage? Dark Harvest makes most level 4 champions capable of 100-0ing you in a single combo

Want Irelia and Akali nerfed? Lol b a r e l y

Want more rune options? The 3 stat options you have now are sure to be better than the 30 you had

Want matches to be longer with more thought out strategies? Game's even shorter

Want tanks to not have all their resistances constantly shredded by arbitrary (true) bonuses? Stop asking

Want to be able to play independently again and not have to roam the map with your whole team constantly 5v5 deathballing every objective on the map? Nope

I think it's finally safe to say the game we once loved is gone now

128 Comments

LEAFERA11/29/2018, 8:54:20 AM43 votes

Can't stop laughing from the title

Raiyza11/29/2018, 4:58:36 PM22 votes

Goodbye, League of Legends. You were fun as fuck for a good 4 years.

Spank the Fox11/29/2018, 11:39:04 AM17 votes

Difference is one game cost $60, and the other has taken $600 from me.

Gramps6911/29/2018, 4:41:58 PM16 votes

I've said this on here repeatedly: This game feels bad to play right now because of damage being too high, and one of the biggest reasons for this is the Runes Reforged. Keystones give too much power and don't allow you to actually play a champion anywhere, you're just playing X champ so you can abuse Y keystone most efficiently, there isn't anything more to it than that.

Why was Zed such cancer last season? Oh that's right, he could miss everything, land his auto and an E during his ult and then pop ignite to proc Electrocute for an assload of damage. So skillful.

Ezreal, king of poke, now gets even more gold for sitting back and doing nothing but throwing max-range Qs at you? So skillful.

Darius can sit and attack minions for 4 second, hit you with one Q and deal true damage through his bleed without even taking minion aggro. So skillful.

Master Yi can double-stack true damage with his E and Conqueror to make your armor irrelevant, and then on top of it he has his %health jungle item/BotRK so you can't build health either. So skillful.

TL;DR: Keystones have removed skill from this game and are the root cause of the "Damage Being Too High" Argument

ManBearPig91611/29/2018, 9:36:10 AM13 votes

If they could revert some things to the ways they were, such as perhaps the runes, or perhaps some other way to lower the damage, they'd be doing a good thing for the game. The game grew for a reason, because it was very fun, and they shouldn't eliminate the fun game climate that we all enjoyed over the growing years of the game. It should be established by now that the high burst damage game climate is NOT an improvement to the game, and an improvement at this point would be to revert some of the changes that contributed to this intense, high damage game climate. Fleshing out the mini-rune options, including increasing the defensive stats, or just re-releasing old rune pages to overlap Runes Reforged, would make this game WAY better with the amount of customization that would be available to use in order to respond to the current game condition.

ValyrianBlade11/29/2018, 12:56:48 PM12 votes

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Want to be able to play independently again and not have to roam the map with your whole team constantly 5v5 deathballing every objective on the map? Nope

Yes, this is getting quite annoying. Losing games that should have been wins because people don't want to group and get picked off in 1v3s.

I got auto filled to ADC last night. Our support was filled to and mid gave him their spot. The new support played brand and won my Lane for me. Enemy ADC afk's at level 4. We get first tower at 8min. Switch to top and get second tower at 11min, then mid tower around 15min. However we're now up 3-1 on towers but down 19-10 on kills. Enemy team's afk returns. Top had been going pretty even before that, mid and jungle were doing badly and constantly bitching at each other. Enemy team has a pyke top and Zoe mid and kha'zix Junge. I was Jinx.

Needless to say, top wanted to split and died many times in the 1v2 or 1v3. I tried to pressure more turrets when it happened, but all 3 of their assassins could one-shot me so I almost always died for it, because our mid and jungle never came with me to protect me at all, and brand just died alongside me.

Yes, those allies deserved to lose based on macro, but it's annoying that with all this damage there's nothing I can do in that scenario. Assassin's are one shotting you before you can do anything (and annoyingly Pyke has a blink I guess because he always dashed over my chompers and they never stopped him even when laid well in advance), non-assassins take about 0.5 seconds longer.

Sire Hippington11/29/2018, 1:10:32 PM8 votes

Want to have Vision? Nope, random warding totem nerfs

Horrible Human11/29/2018, 4:01:56 PM6 votes

You are wrong, only because NMS started poor and is now amazing... League started amazing and is becoming poor.

Wolfeur11/29/2018, 9:54:49 AM5 votes

Want a longer laning phase? 3 minutes added to laning with sacks of gold added to tower damage

Well, yeah, 3 minutes is a lot in this game…

Want less snowballing? First tower now worth 1100 gold

That is just plain wrong. First tower was giving 400g, now it gives 300g. The supplementary gold is not reserved to the first tower.

Want less damage? Dark Harvest makes most level 4 champions capable of 100-0ing you in a single combo

It's been nerfed twice already and will probably be more in the future

Want Irelia and Akali nerfed? Lol b a r e l y

They said they'd work on them more in the near future

Want more rune options? The 3 stat options you have now are sure to be better than the 30 you had

The old runes had the exact same problem, they just disguised it as more customizable but in the end it was always the same thing

Want matches to be longer with more thought out strategies? Game's even shorter

Yeah, it's preseason, matchmaking is a mess and snowball is hard to control as people learn to play with the new changes…

Want tanks to not have all their resistances constantly shredded by arbitrary (true) bonuses? Stop asking

What resistance shred has been added with preseason, exactly?

Want to be able to play independently again and not have to roam the map with your whole team constantly 5v5 deathballing every objective on the map? Nope

It's a team game. Deal with it.

ZackTheWaffleMan11/29/2018, 6:14:59 PM4 votes

not really

no man's sky is good now, after two years

it'll take far longer for them to fix league

rtbf22561824111/30/2018, 2:31:47 AM3 votes

Want more rune options? The 3 stat options you have now are sure to be better than the 30 you had

Only one i disagree with. Noone ever switched up runes. I've never seen a mixed page of varied rune pages outside of new players who didn't have either the levels or IP to get them.

You either took the most viable 5 choices or you were basically trolling. Niché pages were rarely used on the rare occasion you played something very specific like Gp or Singed.

ModAcademy Kayn11/29/2018, 11:31:29 AM1 votes

I mean, not really. I don't care about the League side of this argument, but you're really downplaying the sheer disaster and bullshittery achieved by the No Man Sky incident.