Just An Older Gamer's Observation

Rainfall·Jun 2, 2017·7 votes·528 views

Co-op Vs Al gamemodes are the best way to fight toxicity. Maybe riot should focus on a permanent coop Vs all gamemode. not just for new players like the current coop but also doombots.

8 Comments

Jo0oJun 2, 20173 votes

League's not a great game for PvE. I'm all for PvE in other kinds of games, but this one just doesn't lend itself to a major PvE player base.

I don't have a good way to articulate why that is, but consider sidescroller fighting games like Tekken/Soul Calibur/Mortal Kombat. Ever heard of somebody passionately playing the single-player storylines of those games for extended periods of time?

MyozthirirnJun 2, 20171 votes

You cant code fear of death. You either have bots that let themselves die so easily, or bots that run away at 60% hp.

Jo0oJun 2, 20171 votes

I'm sure there's a way to improve current bot survival instinct. It's not like our own human evaluation of the flow of a League fight is based on a visceral and primal danger sense. We see numbers and make a judgment call.

Intermediate bots, currently, will wander up to you, take one hit, realize they're fucked, then run away and stop fighting. They'll do this even if you have better speed than them, which lets you continue to pile on damage unimpeded until they die. It makes snowballing against bots trivially easy. I'm sure there's SOME way to program bots to recognize a bad engage before they're committed, or to use abilities while fleeing, or to at least sell their life dearly and put some damage on us before dying.

They also can't last-hit for shit (which seems like it'd be easy to program). AND I'm fairly sure that their stats are notably lower than human players' stats, possibly due to bad rune pages?

MyozthirirnJun 2, 20171 votes

Thats exactly the problem, they cant judge if they are winning or losing. There is a health treshold where they "realize" they are losing and run away, regardless of other factors: your hp may be even lower than theirs, their ult could be out of cd in 2 seconds, they may have allies nearby, running away maybe isnt a realistic option because they are slowed, heck maybe they are tryndamere. It doesnt matter, hp is lower than 20% so itstime to run. But you cant fix that, because on hp lower than 20% runing is the best solution 90% of the time and you cant have 800 separate clauses for the remaining 10% of the cases. That 10% of the cases where the non-logical option is the correct one, is the reason people play this, its what makes you climb in the ladder and its imposible to code.