I think something needs to be done about junglers

Godking Yuuumie·1/4/2017, 11:47:13 PM·3 votes·585 views

I'm a top main, always has been, so this may or may not be the same for other lanes. But I think junglers decide the game far too much.

It often feels like even though I am better than my opponent, or i got a good matchup, I.E i would win my lane it gets ruined by their jungler. And I get it. Team game, teammates make up for eachothers mistakes. But, not to the point where peoples mistakes can just be undone. Because of junlers, I can't go on my opponent eveyrtime they fuck up, because they may have a jugnler nearby. I can't freeze because a jungler can just walk up and break it.

The fucking worst part is that god damn, complete bullshit level 2 gank that so many junglers can do. You essentially get punished for daring to walk up to farm the first two levels. Its a lose-lose situation. If i walk up and farm, I may get ganked. IF I don't, my opponent will get level 2 first, I will lose lane pressure and probobly cs do to not being able to walk up to farm since he has a higher level, and do to it probobly going under tower. If i'm on a champion that has an escape and take that level 2, then i still lose because escape spells are often weak in combat wich my opponent can still abuse.

And so many fucking junglers feel like there is no chance to do anything against. Zac LeeSin Vi feel impossible to get away from. I mean, idk about you but I just love sitting under my tower, then a lee comes in, flashes behind me and insecs me. And i cna't flash out because i had to use it to not fucking die 30 seconds earlier when he ganked me. Or Zac being able to jump in from about 10 places at once, while i can barely keep 1 path warded, 2 if i can get a controll ward.

Again, I realise that that is the junglers job, but ffs, how far can it go before it just gets frustrating? Junglers can gank too quick, too often and decide the game too much. Even if you dont think its a problem, you can not deny that almost every single game is decided by which jungler can make the lane snowball the hardest. And that's just not fun. I dont want to get fed from my god damn jungler, i want to get fed because of my own skill. And in the same way i want to play against someone who can get fed on their own. If some1 just demolishes me in lane, then fine, i deserve that. I dont actually want jungle help when i'm getting fucked, if i do i wont learn anything, i wont feel the consequences of being bad.

And that is honestly the last point. I see so many opponents that i would just manhandle 1v1 if i got the chance, but i get 1v2'd instead. And everytime that happens i just think to myself. "You can't rely on your jungler forever. at some point, you have to get good enough to win your own lane". That is ultimatly the problem. The current powerlevel of junglers has made being a good laner much less rewarding, and being a bad laner much less punishing. Picking early game champions like Pantheon Camille is a fucking death sentance, cuz you're just gonna get camped untill you fall off, while picking weak laners like Gangplank Nasus can not be punished nearly as hard as they should be punished just because their jungler is there for them.

I'm not a junger, i'm not a part of the balance team at riot. So idk what can be done. Maybe lowering exp from monsters to nerf the level 2 cheese gank or nerf the smite heal to make jungler less sustainable so they have to back more, idk. Just, something has to be done because I dont want to go to chemotheraphy because of junglers.

And yes, I am a fan of Hashinshin.

8 Comments

Dreadlocks1/4/2017, 11:55:57 PM3 votes

Wall of text about how certain champs are being claimed OP because you get pooped on by them. Nice.