What exactly is Illaoi's counterplay?

Blåbæret··2 votes·1,103 views

Serious question. I have literally found no champ that can reliably trade with her. She simply deals too much damage even if you manage to dodge her E. She can spam tentacles pretty much anywhere and everywhere. If she ults, you have to flash out. E can be dodged 9/10 times, but the moment she hits you'll lose a ton of HP and force you out of lane.

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TyrekGoldenspear5 votes

Think of her like a boss.

Her attacks are all telegraphed and slow, but hurt alot.

Dodge them like you would a boss's attacks.

Counterattack. Especially if you can get her to go oom trying to hit you.

For someone who can go toe to toe with her I suggest Renekton.

Penns2 votes

Dodging them isnt as easy as in a game that has "bosses" tho. Especially when they slap way faster after she ulted.

redniwediS4 votes

Bosses aren't easy the first few times you face them either. Give it time, and learn the moves.

Penns2 votes

Bosses often have a big wind up time, even in "really hard" games like Dark Souls. Illaoi Q kind of does, but in these games youre good by pressing 1 button (rolling/blocking for example). In League you have to react, click away and wait for your champ to actually move out of the mostly too forgiving hitboxes. Imo most skillshots that arent Nidalee spear from 1500 units away arent actually "dodged" in this game, they are missed. Unless you have like Flash or Fizz E but thats not reliable counterplay.

redniwediS1 votes

I won't say Dark Souls is easy, but if you think it's really hard you have a lot to learn.

Penns2 votes

I dont think its really hard but people call it that. I hate Illaoi because she can feed all game, but she will 1) still be hard to fight straight up and 2) in that one jungle fight where she flashes into your team or that one late game fight where she does the same, there is just not a lot of time to react and she does damage.. a lot of damage. But at least she cant abuse cotc.

Sona Ping1 votes

Of course not. League is a PvP game.

But we both know that there are players out there who act as if isn't, talking like they expect all the other champions to be designed to lose to them.

Penns2 votes

Well then you shouldnt compare an unhealthy champ to a SP game boss and say they have the same "counterplay" tho

Sona Ping1 votes

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Well then you shouldnt compare an unhealthy champ to a SP game boss and say they have the same "counterplay" tho

Well, I didn't do that and he said "like" not that they are same and identical in every way.

If we must continue this comparison: Other champions aren't modern single player bosses who are designed to lose, they are like old bosses who are designed to win if you don't play it right.

Nahui4 votes

She has no CC.

She's slow.

Her attacks are slow and telegraphed.

She's slow.

Her power is designed around staying stationary in her ult and fighting in it, much like Heimer with his ult turret or Karthus and his aoe.

She's slow.

She falls off late game when there's enough damage to shred through her tankiness and sustain and others are much tankier, as she does not build pen.

She's slow.

She has no way to escape. In any situation, her only option is flash or fight, and flash, as you can imagine, isn't always an option.

She's slow.

She has no way to engage as a top laner.

She's slow.

No mobility.

She's slow.

She's slow.

She's slow.

She's slow.

**She's SLOW. **

Any questions?

Penns3 votes

Is she fast?

Nahui1 votes

She's slow.

Astôlfo2 votes

Learn to sidestep. Literally every single thing is dodgeable except her W. And her W range is extremely short.

No, she cannot spam tentacles everywhere/anywhere. Kill her tentacles that spawn from her passive.

If she ults without E'ing someone first in a 1v1, you can just beat the shit out of her.

If she does E you, just punish her and hit her back to reduce the time it's out.

Get armor if you can't.

Handy Sandy 2 votes

every single skillshot thing of hers is a rectangle, im able to dodge them with a no boots Karthus srsly

Blåbæret2 votes

Love the Illaoi mains saying move: You can't dodge every single time. It's not a very good arguement. Using your logic every single skill shot champ would be useless.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

Riven if you're skilled, or Fiora with max cdr and smart q's can fight illaoi in her ult.

Other than that, dodge. Have mobiility, or ur fucked.

Oglaf1 votes

She's significantly weaker outside of early laning phase due to her reliance on her tentacles - she's at her strongest here because she will build up a little "base" of tentacles around the lane.

If you catch her roaming without her Ultimate, it is pretty much a free kill.

Noxian Pride1 votes

All I know for sure is you're in for a bad time if you try to play Darius into her.

She's pretty much designed to bully the bully.

Mountain Warden1 votes

The pool of champion that can duel her while she ults is really small. But at the same time it's not exactly hard to just run away for 10 seconds while that's going on and come back. If you can manage to avoid her ult, then a lot of champions can fight her. A tanky trundle for example should be able to go toe to toe with her. A couple of AP champs should punish her pretty hard. Malz with his silence and his suppress should chunk her down pretty well. A good fiddlesticks should outplay her easily I would imagine.

JustMonika131 votes

Illaoi : MOVE!

Lost R1 votes

Crowd control. Range. Mobility.

And if you plan to gang up on her (HIGHLY ill-advised), bring some fucking Grevious Wounds.

But no one does or has any of this, so you're kind of fucked.

TenshouSNK1 votes

Quinn counters her hard.

Stars Shaper1 votes

Summed it up:

Don't get hit by tentacles

  • Not by the ones from his passive/Q
  • Not from her pull
  • Not from her ult (run away from it)

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